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@colm
no problem, any suggestions welcome. the only thing I didnt change was the wheel and cog, it was defintely fitted straight, the hub is All City new sheriff and has large locknuts, the frame is Look 464p with thick track ends so its easy enough to get the wheel perfectly straight. the cog was almost new 15t 7600 DA.
Ill try again with a different wheel but currently all my wheels are built on Novatec made hubs, Ill have a 7710 DA rear wheel built soon and I imagine that would confirm if its the cranks that are the problem