• ^^
    This:

    The head tubes are also often shorter to give you a lower tt. I guess you could compare and contrast lots of frames, but I'd have thought they'd all have a similarish "problem".

    Why not just measure the distance from your saddle to bar length on your Giant and replicate it with the appropriate length stem first? You don't really want to be moving your saddle back to accommodate for having too much reach.

    I just sold the medium Giant for being a touch too long, as well as fanxying a change, and was surprised when the small Boardman CX was the same length.

    I was going to shorten the Giant with 80mm (from 100mm) stem, so will just do the same with the CX. As for the seat post, well, I hopefully will do as little messing with it as possible, but may still go for a zero/less layback post.

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