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@Francis: The discussion I referred to starts here http://www.lfgss.com/post3203174-579.html
It includes me forgetting a joke I had made, a joke taken seriously by some people. Viva Thatcher!
Perhaps I am being harsh on Charlie but your response here is much more convincing. If the LCC thinks getting involved in London's main cycling forum is a waste of time then it is failing to understand how people get, and discuss, information these days.