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  • Which leads me to repeat what I have ranted on here before; that arguing for DK/NL road layouts in the UK as a measure to prevent accidents is a Guardian-reader's myth. Accidents are reduced if the mindset of drivers change. What Hippy wrote above essentially.

    I'd say that they are reduced if everybody's mindsets change. There are lots of bike riders whose attitudes are off, even if they don't cause as much road danger. Traffic is a social environment and people need to understand that better. Also, the increase in crashes in the Netherlands comes from crashes not involving motor vehicles, i.e. unforced falls, collisions between riders, and collisions between cyclists and pedestrians. The number of incidents involving cyclists and motor vehicles didn't change very much in that time, around 2,000pa in the early 90s to 1,500pa in the 00ies. These are still lower crash rates than in the UK, but the tendency is in the wrong direction.

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