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• #2
Don't know why you think H+sons will be radically stiffer than those quite nice-looking Mavics. Also they're not right for the group at all.
I would lace to a medium deep section aero rim like cxp30 or Campag Omega V. Will be 'period correct' for 8speed / SLX era, and surely stiffer than box-section rims. I have some cxp14 (the non-machined version of cxp30) on my c. 1998 athena 9speed Duell, they are insanely stiff.
Just repgrease or replace the bearings in the hub.
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• #3
so you would not consider the 2013 Zondas at all?
Wouldn't the improvement in performance justify the mess it will cause with the looks??
As I said this is my main bike !
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• #4
I would certainly consider those 2013 Zonda's, But you're having looks as a con. imo Zonda's will look good on a steel frame, but that's just personal. If it's your main bike than the Zonda's will a better option as they're lighter and easier to maintain.
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• #5
Bikes24 has the Zondas for €320 (£280) which I think is very fair. They also have the Miche Primato Campy 9 Speed cassette for €25. Rebuilding the current hubs will probably cost me in the €200 region.
Skully I agree that the Campy Omega V would be a nice option for rebuilding.
I am adding pics to make the "looks" discussion a bit more tangible:
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• #7
If you do replace those wheels hit me up, might be interested in the rims
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• #8
Yes that is the plan! If I am to go with the Zonda option I will remove all decals and fit them with my Conti tyres !!
Whether I will be selling complete wheels or just rims will depend on which option I chose!
Still not decided though
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• #9
sent you a pm, don't know if you saw it
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• #10
Thanks to everyone for the feedback.
Based on your feedback (and some further research) I have realised that the Zondas or in fact any wheel with less than 32 spokes will not last with my weight.
Also I am not very keen to rebuild the Athena hubs for a number of reasons (no good wheel builders where I leave, I want to shed of some weight, would like some modern bearings etc).
I have found these Hope3/ Open Pro combination:
They retail for €380 which is not cheap, but could turn out to be a good investment.
They are laced with Sapim Sprint spokes and weight 1.700kg (excl quick release).
Any experiences with the above set?????
An alternative would be to go for a DT Swiss combo (say 350 hubs/ R450 or RR465)
Upgrading the Fidusa
I have recently acquired a 90s Columbus SLX frame from the Greek brand Fidusa.
I have built the frame with an early 90s Campy Athena 8 Groupset/ Cinelli stem/ 3ttt drops.
Saddle is Fizik/seatpost is Planet-x (the Campy Aero was to short).
Wheels are Athena 8 hubs (36 spokes) laced to Mavic 192h rims see below for velobase entry:
http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=9c8d3033-58f1-4595-a889-bd4c4e97d79des
I am not sure what the spokes are but they are nothing special.
The whole built weighs 11kg
I use it as my main road bike so function is quite important.
I am 190cm tall and 110kgs heavy!
I want to upgrade the wheels.
I am looking for somehthing both stiffer and lighter.
I am considering the following two options:
1) Re lace the athena hubs with some strong spokes to H plus & Son Grey Archetypes.
Pros:
I thinks they will look fantastic on the build.
The wheels will be strong
Will be period correct to a certain extent
Cons:
I am not sheding to much weight off
The front Athena Hub is not that smoth.
2) Get a pair of Campy Zondas 2013 wheels.Use them with a 9 speed cassette (drop 1 ring and re space with a spacing kit).
Pros:
I will lose much more weight (close to a kilo)
I will be getting smother hubs
Less flex (I assume)
Cons:
I am not to sure about the looks on the steel frame (I will remove all the decals).
Solutions will cost more but I am willing to invest.
Any feedback welcome.