Electrolytes, Drinks & Hydration

That said, I cannot be arsed.

I remember Lucozade being marketed as hospital nutrition for sick people wrapped in orange cellophane so the sports drink re-branding has always been a WTF.

Hydration = water
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I've no idea what point you're trying to make.

Riding for a couple of hours doesn't make you an 'elite athlete' which is what was stated in the program. But I do agree that there is a middle ground that should be analysed.
I also think that we should, being generally intelligent folk, look up the citations and look at the studies ourselves, not taking the BBC babble as the gospel truth.

Nothing was said about being an elite athlete. There are certainly non-elite athletes that train as long and hard as the elites do (they're just not as gifted genetically) and have to manage other careers. There's also more to sports products than simply hydration options.

There is a shit tonne of bullshit marketing in the sporty/supplement realm.

Yes, most definitely. The public outing of how little research goes onto these claims was a nice part of it all.

Seems to be a regular thing for you.
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Your point, still not of this world. Must try harder.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23690556/?i=12&from=int%20j%20sport%20nutr%20exerc%20metab

CONCLUSION: A low alcohol beer with added sodium offers a potential compromise between a beverage with high social acceptance and one which avoids the exacerbated fluid losses observed when consuming full strength beer.

Add salt to my beer you say.....

In Nicaragua, a country with high heat and humidity and little or no air conditioning, cold light beer with added salt has been a tradition for a very long time.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/nutrition/product/review-erdinger-alkoholfrei-beer-13-47444

http://www.runnersworld.com/drinks-hydration/thirst-v-dehydration-the-continuing-saga

study involved 10 cyclists

This contradicts decades and decades worth of previous studies

I'm gonna say a sample size of 10 contradicts nothing.

Lots of other studies similar to this have used quite small sample sizes and it's still a very interesting study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24085484/?i=2&from=exercise,%20performance

"A mouthful of water following a mouthful of sports drink (also called a “water chaser”) does not prevent dental erosion."

"Use neutralising products, fluoride varnishes, gels or rinses, remineralising agents such as CPP-ACP added to chewing gum, lozenges, mouthwashes or milk to re-harden tooth surfaces. Fluoride, bicarbonate and calcium can also be added to sports/soft drinks to reduce their erosive potential but may also affect the taste and palatability."

http://www.sportsdietitians.com.au/resources/upload/100702%20Dental%20Health%20for%20athletes.pdf

http://deadspin.com/everything-you-know-about-cramps-is-wrong-and-gatorade-1587102837

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/wiggle-launches-range-of-energy-gels-and-hydration-tablets-41568/?CPN=RSS&SOURCE=BRGENHOME

After a series of mistakes trying to just add a bit of salt and lemon to the bidons and then some success with a solution of half sports drink half water I have decided to try SiS tablets for the first time.

VERDICT: Taste gross, hopefully hydrate well.
OBSERVATION: I shouldn't have gotten the flavor that was on sale (pineapple)
SUGGESTION: They should just make them in 'plain' without any extra fake sweet or flavor. I am a grown man, I can handle salty mineraly water.

http://www.torqfitness.co.uk/news/electrolyte-tablets

60g of CHO ph, don't think I could carry that much

That sounds rad, hippy. Their 'organic' energy looks like exactly what I am after (although it is unclear if the organic kind has all of the same energy/electrolyte combo as their flavored kind). Now I just have to go through 40 of these gross pineapple tablets.

Or save them to use as hangover cures

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17277597/

Don't race hill climbs dehydrated, perhaps.

The trouble is With climbing. Is the difference between getting to the top, and being a bit annoyed at having a full bidon left. Which you neednt of carried. Or popping half way after finishing all Your water is fecking tiny. a few C warmer, tiny bit better hydrated in advance, pushing a couple BPM more.......etc. etc.

I've done exactly this on a 1500m Climb recently. Finished With a full bottle and a bit one day. Popped less than 2 weeks later, ran out of water, and added 10 mins, when it was 8C warmer.

In other News.
I've ordered some of that Osmosis stuff on clearance.