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@amey
no they did, jammy said start with a 0 degree 100mm stem and see if you want less upright position, but maybe you are right, I went on war with my inner T rex and might've ended up being accidentally comfortable in a little excessive bendy position ;)
Although i'd love to have a go on 100mm 10 degrees flipped stem, any cheap recommendations? If it fits I'll go with nice but pricey thomson.
I will get on roller tomorrow and set up the seatpost and saddle first.