• Maybe it'll be one of those things where there's an unconscious cultural shift. I still see plenty of riders stopping at red lights - more than a few years ago, which I'm guessing means it's roughly the same percentage, but of a larger whole. Due to the finite space at the front of the queue (which seems to be where the majority of non-RLJers gravitate toward), there'll come a point where as well as being highly conspicuous, they'll also make it very difficult to find the space through which to jump the lights. A sort of domino effect might ensue (I'm not talking about toppling over everyone who's waiting!).

    The game's changed now, so most of the pro-RLJ rhetoric is anachronistic.

    Second this.

    Theres just so many people on bikes, only the stupidest think their actions dont affect everyone else.
    (Quite liked it when you were the only fucking wierdo on a bike :/ )

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