• Is it as busy and as dense out there as London?
    I guess they have more space and a better understanding and expectation of cyclists therefore it's not such an issue there?
    Remember this thread started primarily in response to seeing mothers with children and prams having to deal with RLJers- that's a million miles away from empty junctions, no?

    I wouldn't make assumptions about Bordeaux. There are scooters, trams, cars, peds and cyclists all in the same spaces, all going in different directions. Of course it represents a contrasting milieu to London but the major difference is tolerance and patience. And a willingness to share space. Something is approaching they stop, wait and then carry on.

    And no empty junctions. Plus they drive on the wrong side of the road. And no evil rljers plowing into mothers and babies.

    But you're right: I don't witness a lot of terrible riding. But when I do I just give a gallic shrug, hop onto to the pavement and speed off down the nearest one way street.

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