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  • OK, so Local LCC groups won't have the influence to change this. Surely this is where the central group should be getting involved too? In a "this isn't juat a local issue to you, you need to get this right, and the whole of london cycling is now watching you" sort of a manner. Councils hate big outside groups watching them do things, and do change things because of that.

    Are there really no suggested design specs for cycle routes that cycling groups have come up with? Nothing about suggested widths? Nothing about how stupid it is to expect cylists to stop, cross a road at some really slow lights, and then have to do the same at the other end? really? there's no cycling campaign that dares to stick its neck out over large planning proposals like this and go "acutally, what you're offering there is shit, how about doing this?" And yes, I know that it's tough to find the time to do it. but maybe if someone found the time to do it for the bigge schemes, those drawing up the smaller ones might learn something, and get them right.

    Does "Love London: Go Dutch" not have any design statements? This is a key site where the Mayor is putting in a lot of the cash, and it's not really up to the Go Dutch vision LCC promoted. Or do you think that it is? If not, why are LCC relying on MCC to be the ones standing up and shouting? I've seen nothing in the local papers from either of them, which is a death by silence.

    Yes they do.repeatedly.the daft published guidelines on minimum widths etc years ago.
    But what you get is this.
    Scheme suggestions. Drawn up over months.
    Go to scrutiny panel...clueless objectors. Scheme downgraded.scheme changed to fit views of office nodders.
    Work done.
    Work is lame.
    Goes to safety audit.
    Changes made.

    All by legions of fat old white men who never ride anywhere.
    Over and out

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