• Unless you're really oddly shaped and require custom just get "throw-away" alu. Save the posh stuff for your Sunday cruising bike and beat the shit out of a cheap Kinesis or something.

    Imagine crashing a custom build.. not only would you cry it'd take yonks to get a replacement built.

    My crash last night had very little impact, I clipped wheel infront or me and another rider cycled into the back of me, I managed to stay upright but it still resulted in a cracked top tube. Steel or ti should with stand such an impact. My reasoning for 953,or ti is that it would have to be fairly serious smash to wreck a frame. A safer/more long term investment than carbon???

    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/madison-genesis-volare-953-first-look-36202/

    953 race bike. Although I'd agree with ^^, I'd also guess that weeny carbon might not be suitable for racing.

    Personal preference would be for Canyon, who are doing a decent sale at the moment, have excellent carbon and alu options, have a great crash replacement policy, and used to give you a discount as a 'sponsored rider' if you were racing on it.

    I had seen the genesis race team were on 953 and that's partly what got me thinking along those lines. Nearly bought canyon when I bought the storck so might have a look at their alu frames and not have to worry about having an expensive frame under my arse while racing!!@

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