Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Jadias, which one in the north out of interest? Kyoto to Lake Biwa and back on route 30 is good for repeats but the area to the north of Kyoto is so hilly it should be easy without going over the same ground twice.

I was joking really - I meant Seiryu Omote:
http://app.strava.com/segments/4186435

Doing it once it bad enough. Even the thought of doing repeats on that makes me want to cry.