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It´s pretty good, one step below their top tubing. You can look at the old brochures on the Koga site, if you know the name/colour of the bike it´s very usefull. Here is the 1983 one: http://www.koga.com/koga/linkservid/6F598CC1-3FFA-4C4C-81CC87233EC4EF0E/showMeta/0/