AS Gillott - King of Rats in for a (Light Touch) Rennovation

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  • Wow re the Hetchins stuff, Stedlocks I am now moving my boat to Hallingbury so we will be virtual neighbours- perhaps we have a Hetchins ride (although mine is non curly and with modern bits or a Vintage ride with my 1970 time warp Holdsworth or the 70s shopper bought from you!

    Gareth

    Nice one!
    I remember saying I'd love to be a river pikey!

    Definately up for a ride.....and a look round the boat!

  • Nice one!

    Definately up for a ride.....and a look round the boat!

    Great - look forward to it...

    I'll PM or you do...

    G

  • Definately up for a ride.....and a look round the boat!

    Not a come on by the way!^

    Just read it back and it sounded dodge!

  • Didn't cross my mind sir....you are most welcome to look round the boat anytime...

  • I had a blat down the canal a couple of days ago.....my mate's girlfriend had a narrow boat moored at hallingbury.....'something' island?

    Let me know the name of yours, and I'll keep my eyes out!

  • I had a bit of a Stedlocks moment myself last night...
    I went to pick up a pair of wheels for the Roberts TT bike above and was welcomed into the sellers garden strewn with 90's MTB's. I checked the wheels and admired the little rubber skewer grips making a comment about the Milremo brand being an attempt by a chap called Ron to sound sexy and European. He apologised that road bikes weren't his thing and explained that the wheels came on a cheap road bike from which he'd sold the bits he'd identified as valuable.

    He then said I'd be saving him a trip to the tip if I took the remaining bits off his hands, namely a frame (which I believe to be a Percy Stallard Special Zakopane due to Stallard Dropouts and SZ-serial# prefix), an SR fluted seatpost, Baliss-Wiley BB, TDC Headset, and a rather elegant Fiamme bar and stem combo.
    The frame is way to small for me and poorly refinished in a girly pink colour, but my eldest daughter has bagsied it! Forks aren't original but are a rather fetching pair of Cinelli-esque chrome jobs! - Photos to follow

  • See!
    That's why I posted here.... To let a bit of my luck rub off!

    Nice find, need pictures!

  • Here you go...

    Stallard Dropouts (Serial# SZ4162)

    Baliss Wiley BB & 50's style BB greaseport

    Probably the original headset (TDC??) - bit of overspray on the cups!! Lovely Cinelli-esque crown on the (non-original) forks

    The headtube lugs are probably the easiest feature to get an ID from... here's another shot.

    There's also a slightly odd braze-on just below the settube lug, perhaps it's for a cable wheel thingy...

    This Stallard has serial# SZ80576

    But this one sold by Hilary is a much more positive match.

  • Here are the Fiamme Bar/Stem Combo that came with the Stallard.

  • Just to tidy up the earlier discussion on brake lever hoods - repair and replacement.... rive gauche's kind offer of levers turned out to be non-period correct, so I've decided to stick with the red-dot Weinmann's with slightly perished hoods and if they do fall apart I'll repair them with Shoo Goo which it turns out is available in a Natural latex colour. I spotted a blog in which a chap has repaired his Sidi's with the same...

    To avoid leaving a dead end trail to anyone else looking to restore Weinmann-levered-classic-lightweights here are the remaining findings from my research.....

    NOS Lever Hoods.
    Apart from ebay where they occasionally show up, the best places I found for these hoods are both in the US.
    Cycles deOro sell them for US$50
    Bikeville for US$30-40 depending on the size of hole!

    NOS Levers complete with Hoods
    These are a bit of a bargain at €30 - help the Greek debt crisis.

    Repro Hoods
    Your man Robbie Fellows doesn't cook Weinmann repro's (Presumably they're not worth bothering with at $50 a pop when you can buy a complete NOS Lever for €30) - But if you're looking for Campag, Universal or Modolo then go in search of him - easiest place is Classic Rendezvous.
    As far as I know he moulds them using PU Foam
    There's someone in Japan moulding Weinmann knock-offs but I can't find anyone selling them.

    Lastly if you're just looking for comfort and not bothered about period corectness, you could try [=49&difficulty=3&team_sugru=&search=&starter=0"]this stuff!](http://sugru.com/gallery/?context_ids[) or if you're a fan of sesame street get felting.

    More details here

  • One more point - just to clarify - all digressions are more than welcome.
    Nick I want to see pics of your uncle's Olympic bike, Pat, please show us your Bird Bros TT machine.

    http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/engers_files/alf_scans/alf_frontcover_1975_r.jpg

  • Wow, some amazing stories in here... Cool bike too.

  • Good stuff bud :0)
    I may have a fork for that stallard.....it looks very similar anyway!

  • ^^^ haven't seen it myself yet! Next bike related thing for me is probably the Benotto 3000.

  • aaah benotto
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bF3Ebc8fK0U/Ts2c5Rj5pbI/AAAAAAAABn4/V2rQxi6yUOo/s1600/benotto_giacinto.jpg

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KbNPAkt8OFQ/Ts2glmw_JEI/AAAAAAAABoI/8O-Tp29g_iQ/s640/Benotto+guys+1.png

    http://europeanastatic.eu/api/image?type=IMAGE&uri=http%3A%2F%2Farnold.limburg.be%2Falfresco%2FguestDownload%2Fdirect%2Fworkspace%2FSpacesStore%2F74ec0782-3661-4318-b5fb-6bee2ea9b696%2F74ec0782-3661-4318-b5fb-6bee2ea9b696_MEDIUM.png&size=FULL_DOC http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ogc5-LwjcUA/Ts2y1RdSHsI/AAAAAAAABpg/KtYzjFPpblM/s1600/benotto_moser.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a6Zzbhbq9lc/Ts2eMJLKKYI/AAAAAAAABoA/7RL-fw6k8k4/s1600/benotto_moser3.jpg

    Saw it in the CP's thread - a great acquisition - look forward to seeing what you do with it.... Wald rack and risers perhaps?

    I had a Benotto once - at least I think it was (had a triumph sticker on the Top tube but took an italian BB and was a metallic blue/white fade) - Rode it across the pyrenees in 2000 and then shortly afterwards I got hit by a Mazda on the humpback bridge between trowbridge and bradford-on-avon - trashed the wheels and bent the TT chainstays, seatstay and LH crank arm and smashed a campag record pro-fit pedal in half. We dug a shallow grave at sham castle and buried it one saturday evening. Legend has it that if you pass on a still night you can hear the faint whirr of a regina freewheel and the click of a pro-fit pedal

  • Yeah, it's got loads of funny lumpy bits stuck onto it that need to come off and then I'll probably cold set the rear down to 120mm for track wheels. Armourtex matt black and then 'The Eagle of Tachira' on the downtube in pink Dosnoventa font.
    I think that I'm going to have to do nasty things to my Dave Russell to liberate gears and brakes sadly. I have been amusing myself this evening proving that a fridge magnet won't stick to the Ti axles of some cheap SR pedals I acquired.

  • Also dream = shattered knowing that Moser actually rode a De Rosa...

  • hijack over soon

  • As I said above - Hijacks positively encouraged - great shot, but I think you need to explore some alternatives....
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/72712370/IMG_2724.JPG
    (In case you're wondering, that's a Cliff Shrubb vitus build of mine - I think you should consider a similar approach for your 3000)

    SR pedals ftw - I'll post a photo of some hilarious (but at the same time splendid) ones that I was using with the above pengy tribute

  • Also dream = shattered knowing that Moser actually rode a De Rosa...

    Consider my sunday-in-hell-based-dreams well and truly shattered - and I don't even own a benotto (but I do have a De Rosa - fnarrr)

  • Well it was either the 3000 or some silly wheels for the Argos. I'm ashamed to say that the decision took me quite a long time.

  • Where else but LFGSS do you get campag pedals on Espresso chainsets, and to finish things off - toestrap pulls - a pedal is not fully dressed without a pull - See also the pengy tribute in an alternative guise

  • Well it was either the 3000 or some silly wheels for the Argos. I'm ashamed to say that the decision took me quite a long time.

    Where are you up to with the Argos?

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AS Gillott - King of Rats in for a (Light Touch) Rennovation

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