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That's why the button's red... :)

Agreed though, all the delete buttons must have a confirmation dialogue, recorded here -- https://github.com/microcosm-cc/microweb/issues/27

How about an 'instant restore button' for a short period, for a change, so if you really wish to delete its only one click ? Reward the decisive.

You guys around on Thurs night, post-5PM?

We are.

How about an 'instant restore button' for a short period, for a change, so if you really wish to delete its only one click ? Reward the decisive.

Not a bad idea, or at least to allow the site admin or owner still see it but indicate it's deleted.

There's some weird logic though... deletion is simple, but undelete will likely follow some set of rules. For example, if an admin deleted some post because of a takedown notice that they had to comply with, the person who created it originally shouldn't be able to undelete if they're not the admin.

So we can certainly show you deleted things, but it may not necessarily be true, even if you created the deleted thing originally, that you could undelete it.

I would be like moving the deleted item to a trash folder that plermanently deletes content after say a week

We are.

BALLS. I got to be home for flatmate interview at 7pm.
Still would like to come chat to you about stuff and take proper notes this time. Esp about functionality and what's in/out at what stage, current defects, clearing them out. Also about future stuff.

I do actually need to spend some time doing some proper tests instead of poking about.

You in Mon?

Done: https://github.com/microcosm-cc/microweb/issues/57

Which version of Internet Explorer are you using? (found by clicking the cog at the top right > About)

Persona is stated to work with IE8 and IE9, but I had to manually turn off "Compatibility View" (Tools > Compatibility View) to get it to work. Does it work if you change that? (if the corporate policy even allows it).

All that's needed to force that automatically is a small HTML change, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Unfortunately (for us) it's possible to stop anyone changing the compatibility view setting using Group Policy, so if that's a common thing then we'll need a workaround.

thanks for efforts bp; still not possible (IE8, compatibility view disabled)

BALLS. I got to be home for flatmate interview at 7pm.
Still would like to come chat to you about stuff and take proper notes this time. Esp about functionality and what's in/out at what stage, current defects, clearing them out. Also about future stuff.

I do actually need to spend some time doing some proper tests instead of poking about.

You in Mon?

We are in Monday.

thanks for efforts bp; still not possible (IE8, compatibility view disabled)

Ok, one last question: what happens when you press F12 - do you see 'Browser Mode: IE 8' and 'Document Mode: IE 8 Standards' as in the screenshot below? (mouse is over the first area)

Assuming dev tools are even enabled, of course.

There are a large number of browser features that can be enabled/disabled by group policy so it's difficult to guess what the problem is.

The other thing is... Persona is totally open-source, so it's within the bounds of possibility that we might modify it to fix this (though not in the near future).

Is that on http://sandbox.microcosm.app ? The html looks different.

Edit: noticed it's on lfgss, but might be in a different mode on the sandbox

Hmm, I'm getting an error logging in with Persona.

I'd forgotten my p/w so just re-set it. It logs in in the pop-up box fine, but then gives an error:

You've been logged out — this could be because of a site update or an expired cookie.

 This may also happen if you're trying to view a private item.
 [Click here to return to the home page](http://sandbox.microcosm.app/) and log in again.

Just tried clearing cookies for microcosm.app and that hasn't changed anything, and I'm also getting it in Chrome, and this is the first time I've visited microcosm.app with Chrome.

Just tried it on the Times Crossword page (first example on the mozilla persona page), and it worked fine, but whereas mircroco.sm asks for a p/w, it didn't.

I'd ticked the 'this is my machine, leave me logged in for a month option', which doesn't seem to be registering on microcosm.app

DK is just redeploying the site, I suspect that'll clear this (in the middle of deploying new code + clearing database).

Sites are up... is it working now Branwen?

I just reset my Persona password and it worked ok.

Yes :)

Also, I noticed this before, just remembered.

For some reason, ctrl+click on Windows doesn't seem to work as 'open link in a new tab', is this intentional? Or a bug? Or just something not implemented yet?

^that should Just Work. Have you tried turning it off then on again?

How would I do that? (I had assumed it was just a thing).
It works on everything else I have open in the same session

Edit: sarcasm recog. fail?

I mean quit your browser and then re-open it. I care not for your precious session!

FWIW a couple of days ago I got this thing where the right click menu would only ever open up an Adobe Flash menu for everything, including links, and I left it like that for about 3 days because I refused to close my browser.

Flash! Ha!
(saviour of the universe DUN dun DUN dun DUN dun etc.)

Having a little chat with the folks over at Mozilla. They suggested visiting http://www.whatsmyuseragent.com/ -- could you copy the User Agent text and paste it here?

(No need to paste the IP address).

It might be a specific version of IE8 that isn't getting recognised correctly by Persona.

Thanks for bearing with me so far :)

Is that on http://sandbox.microcosm.app ? The html looks different.

Edit: noticed it's on lfgss, but might be in a different mode on the sandbox

Having a little chat with the folks over at Mozilla. They suggested visiting http://www.whatsmyuseragent.com/ -- could you copy the User Agent text and paste it here?

(No need to paste the IP address).

It might be a specific version of IE8 that isn't getting recognised correctly by Persona.

Thanks for bearing with me so far :)

Ok, this should be the last one:

http://lloyd.github.io/persona-troubleshoot/troubleshoot.html

This page just runs some simple tests for things that Persona needs to work.

If you could paste the output, that'd be great.

There it is... whoever setup the security policy for that browser has disabled localStorage, which Persona requires to keep someone logged in.

There's not much we can immediately do about this (unless there's a way a non-admin can change that setting in their browser, very unlikely but I'll check).

But a few good things have come out of this: one is, we can put that test script somewhere on microcosm and determine what proportion of users on IE8 this affects. Persona supports IE8, but not if those features are disabled, and there isn't any data on how many people that is.

The other is... we've been discussing hosting Persona ourselves (the code is entirely open source) or using another service to host it, which might mean we can add a workaround.

Adding another login mechanism (such as Google Account) is also a potential thing. The way we've built the platform would make this pretty straightforward.

Anyway, thanks for helping diagnose. Sorry to say I can't fix this now, but it's given us food for thought on logins.