Ehbpc 2013

Ha!

For sure, I think that's what we all want.

Of course all of this comes down to the lack of an official body in the UK to decide these things for us, with authority. Once we have one, this will all be a lot easier.

For the moment, I suggest we've trusted Cambridge to organise the champs and qualifiers for us, so we should trust them to come up with a solution which is best for UK Polo as a whole.

Yeah no worries chan. I was just suggesting a vote as seemed democratic as there seemed to be some differences of opinion. If it does affect then yes you should be involved in the process.

Its all very well being democratic but

a portion of the eligible voters won't be affected as they're likely to qualify comfortably.
some voters who might qualify aren't too worried on missing out on an opportunity (it's only polo, after all)
some have no chance of qualifying at all and wouldn't want to go, or can't afford to.

Each of these groups would influence the result of the vote without actually being affected by the result. How do you determine what an eligible team is? Do you include all teams who can't go to Cambridge?

#willvoteforbribes

Some voters don't understand what they're voting for and what the exception represents in principle.

#UKIP

#topical

I don't except that it does not affect some teams as it will. People are not guaranteed to qualify that's rubbish. IMO all teams that have registered that have not stated they will go should be involved. But yeah maybe the organisers might be best to clarify otherwise it is down to the community or interested parties. If this is the case why not vote? Maybe the answer is quite simple from that or maybe not.

Nice you guys are sorting this out internally without assimilating the colonies.

#lovepolonotpolotics

You mean Cosmic don't have two irish players?

As I said, we will decide what happens on Sunday.

I heard one of their grannies is from Cork…

I heard one of their grannies is from Cork…

I read that very wrong when I first saw it

I read that very wrong when I first saw it

You have been spending too much time with Rob otter ;)

Although I want them to go, I think it would require more than just a majority... Personally I think even just the two disenting voices we've heard so far make it impossible to give a slot to cosmic.

It would need to be unanimous or at least close to unanimous, and I'm certain although Chan and Em are the only people who have had the balls to speak their minds they are bound to represent others who would vote against even though they may not bother to say anything here.

I wasn't aware how we were gonna work this and I certainly don't want any special treatment. I'd love to earn our spot but that isn't gonna happen. It's unfortunate but that's the way it is. Originally we agreed we could come together for a specific date and that date changed and we didn't have the option to rearrange other plans.
Naturally we thought "hey let's play the wildcard" but now that isn't an option.
I've decided I'm definitely out now. As we get closer to the date, if there is an option I may consider yet will prob make other plans. I'm not down about this and don't feel it really needs to be discussed further. It just feels like the right decision.

I wasn't aware how we were gonna work this and I certainly don't want any special treatment. I'd love to earn our spot but that isn't gonna happen. It's unfortunate but that's the way it is. Originally we agreed we could come together for a specific date and that date changed and we didn't have the option to rearrange other plans.
Naturally we thought "hey let's play the wildcard" but now that isn't an option.
I've decided I'm definitely out now. As we get closer to the date, if there is an option I may consider yet will prob make other plans. I'm not down about this and don't feel it really needs to be discussed further. It just feels like the right decision.

No way Toddy. Ignore the past few pages, it's just internet bullshit as always.

aw Todd couldnt you have let us argue about it for a few more days?

No way Toddy. Ignore the past few pages, it's just internet bullshit as always.

Hey Ben, thanks, but this decision has got nothing to do with the content from the last few pages.

Although we appreciate the discussions voiced and that some people would support giving cosmic a wild card spot, we never actually wanted or asked for that. We simply were voicing our initial frustrations with the wild card allocation process.

I believe it would not be fair for cosmic to get any special treatment either. And I certainly wouldn't want to take another teams opportunity of getting to the euros away from them because we got a free spot.

The reality is right now other responsibilities have to take priority for cosmic. As Todd said, maybe things will change closer to the euros wild card date, but we probably have to accept that we can't attend every major tournament - no matter how much we'd love to.

As Luca mentioned, Cambridge will talk about this on Sunday and come back with an answer on how to allocate the wildcard spots. My personal opinon is to do the following:

Use the tournament to create a ranked list of all teams in the UK (that are able to attend)

Give the top x spots to the top x teams.

If one of the qualified teams cannot make it, the next team down the list gets the spot. A deadline will be set for teams to commit/not commit to going to the Euros.

As for the wildcard spots, my feeling is that there won't be a huge demand for these spots when it finally comes down to it, and we can sort out the alloc. while keeping everyone happy. Also, I disagree that a wildcard should use a ranked system, its not really a wildcard then is it?

The overall goal of the qualifiers is to send the best teams in the UK to the Euros in the fairest way possible. There are many factors to 'fair'. Most sports take the whole season to rank the teams in the league, we are trying to do it in one day. This could be seen as unfair (injuries/attendance can affect result).

Anyways, I don't see much change to what has been discussed already. The default selection process for the UK wildcard teams should be to use the qualifier tournament results. But for special cases, there could be allocations made subject to a discussion/vote by the parties affected and the UK community.

Naturally we thought "hey let's play the wildcard" but now that isn't an option.

It is an option, you've just got to get on the first-come-first-served list (which I guess was your intention anyway, with the wildcard)

John, yes that was our intention in the first place. But the truth is it's all become a matter of timings and committing a minimum of 5 days to this tournament is hard for us currently.

I respect the Krakow club for stepping up and organising the Euro's this year, but the dates have been announced at such short notice its made going only harder.

Anyway, enough said, lets move this thread along.

I'm 75% Irish btw.

25% etonian ;0

Can I pick up my front wheel tomorrow for todd's tapout? Is anyone home as your in Rome?

Alright, enough talk about logistics. Who's gonna win it? I'd wager a tenner on Edisons, if anyones gonna run the books.

Alright, enough talk about logistics. Who's gonna win it? I'd wager a tenner on Edisons, if anyones gonna run the books.

CMD all day.

...I mean True Danger!