Don't be a jerk James, it's not as if there's a censor list going on.
But the site has a topic, it has a focus. You know... the love of cycling.
And if you want 4chan, 4chan exists. It's not as if you or anyone else is being deprived of the ability to argue or post cock shots, but really... is a cycling site the best place for that?
Start thinking of people who visit this site and why they do so, and where they do so from. Aside from a minority of people (literally a handful or two), the vast majority come to the site for bikes, people talking about bikes, to solve problems relating to their bike or cycling, because their bike has been stolen, because they want to learn more about bikes... they come to engage in their hobby/pastime/lifestyle... because they love bikes, care about other cyclists... and they're here because this is the particular site they've chosen that represents the epicentre of this particular niche of cycling.
And they access from work, and are doing it on the sly to get away from the stress and rubbish of the day, to seek solace in the sanctuary. They can't be on their bikes right then, and this place connects them to that peace.
And where in that list was "People come to the site for arguing and cock shots"?
For a handful, perhaps. But perhaps that handful got it wrong and should've chosen 4chan?
And where in that idea of it being a sanctuary does it fit that posting stuff that could risk the site being blacklisted by reputation filters on company firewalls help those who visit the site?
I'm getting past the idea where everything goes, and thinking that since it really does seem to be no more than a handful of people who tend to taint the site for the majority... maybe that handful should adapt or move along? Yeah, we'll miss them for the good stuff, but I really doubt there will be anyone that misses them for the shit stuff.
And I've always advocated that I shouldn't be the one to get involved, that the right mechanism for this is that your peers, others in the community, should confront those who are being jerks. But what if people never listen? If tens and hundreds of little incidents have occurred over the years where the community (in many permutations of different individuals) all voice their disapproval and yet nothing changes... should I continue to just ignore and say it's for the community to sort out?
Basically I'm coming to the conclusion that the bad shit eventually outweighs the good, and if people can't self-moderate and act with consideration for the majority on here then those people can move along. It won't be the end of the world.
Don't be a jerk James, it's not as if there's a censor list going on.
But the site has a topic, it has a focus. You know... the love of cycling.
And if you want 4chan, 4chan exists. It's not as if you or anyone else is being deprived of the ability to argue or post cock shots, but really... is a cycling site the best place for that?
Start thinking of people who visit this site and why they do so, and where they do so from. Aside from a minority of people (literally a handful or two), the vast majority come to the site for bikes, people talking about bikes, to solve problems relating to their bike or cycling, because their bike has been stolen, because they want to learn more about bikes... they come to engage in their hobby/pastime/lifestyle... because they love bikes, care about other cyclists... and they're here because this is the particular site they've chosen that represents the epicentre of this particular niche of cycling.
And they access from work, and are doing it on the sly to get away from the stress and rubbish of the day, to seek solace in the sanctuary. They can't be on their bikes right then, and this place connects them to that peace.
And where in that list was "People come to the site for arguing and cock shots"?
For a handful, perhaps. But perhaps that handful got it wrong and should've chosen 4chan?
And where in that idea of it being a sanctuary does it fit that posting stuff that could risk the site being blacklisted by reputation filters on company firewalls help those who visit the site?
I'm getting past the idea where everything goes, and thinking that since it really does seem to be no more than a handful of people who tend to taint the site for the majority... maybe that handful should adapt or move along? Yeah, we'll miss them for the good stuff, but I really doubt there will be anyone that misses them for the shit stuff.
And I've always advocated that I shouldn't be the one to get involved, that the right mechanism for this is that your peers, others in the community, should confront those who are being jerks. But what if people never listen? If tens and hundreds of little incidents have occurred over the years where the community (in many permutations of different individuals) all voice their disapproval and yet nothing changes... should I continue to just ignore and say it's for the community to sort out?
Basically I'm coming to the conclusion that the bad shit eventually outweighs the good, and if people can't self-moderate and act with consideration for the majority on here then those people can move along. It won't be the end of the world.