• anyone have experience building with these?

    I'm guessing that you'd add 7-8mm of spoke length to use them?

    http://www.royceuk.co.uk/Stealth-Nipples-each.html

    have wanted to try them but the price is too much for me. with longer nipples you have extra rotational weight, not a problem during a steady time trail, especially indoors.

    i just got these today http://www.amclassic.com/en/products/components/spokenipples.php

    they own the patent but Pillar and CN Spoke make them too. it might be possible to modify the 16mm version so that the nipple is hidden inside the rim. the long squared area would need to be cut off, the spoke would still have support in the hole. Ill check the thread length on the 14mm nipples I have later

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