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@Garethhon
Thanks Poots, that was indeed us- who were you, did you
Have the tattoo arm warmers my stoker was fascinated/scared by? We had a fab day - thanks to all... I stopped suddenly on Fox Hill and stoker complained as she bumped her bars- she complained more loudly when I declared we were going to walk, used the word quitter and 'in my opinion' bullied me into restating on a 1:5 gradient which we climbed together- shat a six year old! (*proud dad moment*)