Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

It is.

i think its time to start calling pedestrians, the amount of people who walk out in traffic is crazy. they moan when a cyclist RLJ but they think its okay to cross with out using a crossing?

But they think its okay to cross with out using a crossing?

It's perfectly okay to cross without the aid of a crossing, otherwise we would be going nowhere.

obvs trll 's obvs

or merkin they have jaywalking laws out there innit.

Merkin? You mean like a grumble wig?

It's perfectly okay to cross without the aid of a crossing, otherwise we would be going nowhere.

so you like filtering through traffic and then having a ped walk out on you making you skid to a stop? if they look for cyclist i couldnt care how they get around but the fact that they walk out in to traffic with out looking to see if there is a cyclist coming down the middle really pisses me off

Nah I wouldn't mind, sort of thing that make you a better cyclists really by compensating your speed and positioning in certain environment.

If you have to skid to a stop, you're doing something wrong.

so you like filtering through traffic and then having a ped walk out on you making you skid to a stop? if they look for cyclist i couldnt care how they get around but the fact that they walk out in to traffic **with out looking **to see if there is a cyclist coming down the middle really pisses me off

You should be the one looking if you're filtering.

Nah I wouldn't mind, sort of thing that make you a better cyclists really.

If you have to skid to a stop, you're doing something wrong.

so you are going between a bus and a car coming up to a set of lights then you see a ped walk out from infront of the bus what would you do? cant go round them because of car on outside so the only way to not hit them is to stop

If I'm riding between a bus and a car heading up to a set of light, I ride slightly slower allowing myself enough time and distance to perform an emergency stop in case someone quite literally jumped out.

It's very foolish to go at a normal speed while being sandwiched by a couple of vehicles in a busy section.

so you are going between a bus and a car coming up to a set of lights then you see a ped walk out from infront of the bus what would you do? cant go round them because of car on outside so the only way to not hit them is to stop

A bus, stopped at a bus stop. Are you seriously saying you could not predict a ped would not just get off the bus and try to cross in front of it?

If I'm riding between a bus and a car heading up to a set of light, I ride slightly slower allowing myself enough time and distance to perform an emergency stop in case someone quite literally jumped out.

It's very foolish to go at a normal speed while being sandwiched by a couple of vehicles in a busy section.

i do slow down while filtering but my point is that even tho there is a crossing less than 100 yards away they will still cross in front of a bus which they cannot see round thats why i think it is time to start calling out at peds that do this but only one rider having a go will do nothing but if half the riders on the forum did so then maybe they would think twice before crossing

A bus, stopped at a bus stop. Are you seriously saying you could not predict a ped would not just get off the bus and try to cross in front of it?

im not saying i dont expect it what i am saying is that its wrong for them to do so.

No it isn't.

A stupid move? yes, but they're not in the wrong.

Shouting at them/zipping pass them alarmingly close is no difference* to how a driver decided to do a punishment pass at cyclists.

No it isn't.

A stupid move? yes, but they're not in the wrong.

legally that is true, there is nothing "wrong" with it, it is just a stupid move if it is wrong or not depends on what you would call "wrong" i would call a stupid move a wrong move.

What?

i used the word "wrong" you said that the move was not "wrong" but a stupid move, i feel that any move which is stupid is also a wrong move

They're in a city, they'll always going to do that, just as drivers always going to jump the red light.

^not a good example, RLJing is illegal... I agrree with the point though.

They're in a city, they'll always going to do that, just as drivers always going to jump the red light.

that is true its also the same as there will always be bad cyclists which is what this thread started on

This is terrible trolling.

And if you are that person who wants to walk faster than the person in front what should you do?
Beep them?
Tell the to get out the f$£king way?
Call them a prick?
Tell them they're walking like a c%^nt?
Pass them really close just to show em their error?
Knock them out the way?

What we need is more road culture on the pavement

The English response is to tut and mutter at them, as any fule kno.

Of course the real answer is "none of the above", as hoefla said "sometimes it is ok for you to be slow, too". The problem is that, at certain times of day, the pavements of London are the routes by which huge numbers of tired people make their way into work or back home to their families (which is totally right, people should walk where possible). Failing to consider that is pretty inconsiderate and it's difficult to keep your cool when the 19th person steps off a bus into your path.

I'm aware that this sounds vaguely like some knuckle dragging twat in a modded hatchback frothing at the mouth, shouting that cyclists hold them up and shouldn't be on "their" roads, but there is a crucial difference: most of the things that cyclists do that annoy motorists are safety critical (cycling in primary etc.); most of the annoying things that pedestrians do have no bearing on safety at all. For example, there are some bus stops where a difference of 2ft in the position of one person waiting for a bus has no effect on them, but makes the difference between pedestrians walking freely past and the pavement being completely impassable. It's astonishing the number of people who never think that they might be in the way.

Do the pedestrial lights at controlled intersections have any legal weight? If a pedestrian steps out into the path of a cyclist approaching the green light at speed, is the cyclist going to be found liable for failing to predict the pedestrian would ignore the red "don't cross" sign right in front of them?

With a motorised vehicles, they're likely to be found liable unless proven otherwise, not sure if a cyclists is held in the same manner, but either way best to ride as if you're liable.