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• #77
mountain bike for mountains
road bike for road
shopper bike for shopping
track bike for track
penny farthing for spending a penny
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• #78
ride a track frame, on the road?
u mad bro?
no one on here would do such a foolish thing
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• #79
I can resonate in the feelings.
Good.
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• #80
I mean other than the reason I mentioned myself is there anything else that makes it unrideable?
Well for a start they can only turn left.
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• #81
the ballache that is toe overlap. I nearly decked before I got out the drive
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• #82
the ballache that is toe overlap. I nearly decked before I got out the drive
I don't understand this issue with toe overlap.
You people must be riding extremely slow and turning really tight corners for it to be an issue.
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• #83
few tight turns where I am occasionally catch me out, still manage to keep upright tho, tbh that's the only issue I ever have with my bike
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• #84
dont real track frames only turn left?
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• #85
Genuine track frames have a headset that fixes the front wheel to track straight ahead, the rider steers it by using their hips and leaning. This is why they are unsuitable for road riding.
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• #86
Hi everyone,
not sure if it's me being hopeless in using the search option or if actually the matter has not been raised yet on the forum. I'm relatively new to the forum and currently owning and riding a Cinelli bootleg 2012 bought after the suggestion of a supposed to be trusted friend.
Unfortunately I'm not that impressed with the bicycle itself and a bit ashamed of the overall quality of the frame itself, in fairness, for the price of the bike I would have expected better. Anyway life is tough and the show must go on and I'm looking to move onto something different.Googling around I fell in love with the old Fuji Track and Fuji Track pro type of frame, the ones with integrated seat post to give the idea and I seen that planet-x has some very cool product in stock of the same/similar shape.
Now my question as per subject is, is there any particular reason why to avoid a track bike/frame on road other than the higher rigidity and stiffness of the frame itself? I know that I might going to sound very superficial here it's been love at the first sight with those frames and I can't now imagine myself riding anything else.
What's your ideas on the subject?
Thanks for you help. Cheers.
I do it, it's great fun but be careful to avoid pot holes etc
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• #87
Friday popcorn or simple answers? I'm in a full disclosure mood.
debo, everyone on here rides track frames on the road, it's fine. The local riding you'll be doing means stiffness is a non-issue. The tight geo is probably pretty good for filtering / getting out of trouble on the road too.
Buy what makes you happy and ride it every day. Both Fuji and PX are a good start.
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• #88
I didnt know what a Cinelli Bootleg was so I looked it up.
Top Features of the Cinelli Bootleg Mystic Rats 2013
The Mystic Rats is a classic road/track bike weighing just 8.1kg. Built with Columbus tubing (fixie geometry), it's ideal for the urban environment. Speed through traffic, whizz around street furniture, the Rats is the ultimate city bike.The Bootleg is a niche brand of highly desirable street bikes originally conceived from a trend in Italy where top end bikes were covered in black tape to disguise their value.
Fixie geometry.
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• #89
I didnt know what a Cinelli Bootleg was so I looked it up.
Same. Then seen the price of 700notes couldn't you get a vorg for that
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• #90
"The black rat removes its skin and underneath has always been dressed in a white smoking jacket as the director of a swing orchestra. The rhythm is boogie and syncopated to ride on road and track (flip-flop rear hub). Bull horn handlebar for grab, Unicanitor saddle. An apparition."
I challenge anyone to write a better sales blurb, im sold.
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• #91
debo, everyone on here rides track frames on the road, it's fine. The local riding you'll be doing means stiffness is a non-issue. The tight geo is probably pretty good for filtering / getting out of trouble on the road too.
Buy what makes you happy and ride it every day. Both Fuji and PX are a good start.
I knew it! ;) thanks for the hint... if it will be, it has to be Planet X I suppose because the old Fuji frames are way too hard to find.
Same. Then seen the price of 700notes couldn't you get a vorg for that
To be honest it's not too bad... until you see how poor the weld joint are soldered."Bull horn handlebar for grab, Unicanitor saddle. An apparition."
I think they should say disappearance for that unicanitor, I bin it straight away as soon as I got the bicycle.Thanks for your advices and posts guys. Very appreciated.
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• #92
"goes like shit off a shovel"
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• #93
I didnt know what a Cinelli Bootleg was so I looked it up.
Me too.
Appart from being increadibly hard to see on a white background I'm not really sure I see what is wrong with it from a "quality" POV(?).
Slightly lumpy welds aren't a sign of poor quality. They are just an indication of some money saved on frame finishing.
Personally I think it looks a bit odd to be riding something like a full carbon PX stealth beast on the road. I'd pick something a little more understated like a Dolan Seta... but horses for courses etc.
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• #94
It comes in black (\m/) too
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• #96
you probably don't want to be jumping up curbs/kerbs if not just for the sake of the wheels and tyres/tires (unless you're running 34c or something similar)
20c tubulars and nary a problem
/ancientthreadquote
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• #97
Me too.
Appart from being increadibly hard to see on a white background I'm not really sure I see what is wrong with it from a "quality" POV(?).
Slightly lumpy welds aren't a sign of poor quality. They are just an indication of some money saved on frame finishing.
Well that's the thing, I paid it £850 so it's not really a money saver. On the top of it, the bicycles comes with a very uncomfortable plastic saddle that you have to remove straight away, the seatpost painting gets scratched just simply looking at it and the handle bar doesn't look any close to the one you see in the photo. It's way thinner than that.
Now, don't get me wrong is a great piece of bike overall, it rides beautifully and everything but again I think, and here my fault for being too hasty, I could have find a better frame for less.
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• #98
Talking about finishing well the Dolan seta you mentioned looks beautiful to me.
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• #99
The fuck, this thread is still going?
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• #100
The fuck, this thread is still going?
Actually something strange happened. It's a completely new thread that suddenly got merged to the old one a couple of days ago. I've been surprised as you as well especially because I searched similar thread before but I didn't find it... oh the mystery of technology :-)
Understand that... strong and clear and I can resonate in the feelings. However I'd like to know more the technical reasons and the implication of it. I mean other than the reason I mentioned myself is there anything else that makes it unrideable?
Just to understand better because looking at those link it looks like I'm not the only mad cow out there:
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/readers-rides/your-ride/q/736102050_wbs70kruegel_planet-x-pro-carbon-track
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/readers-rides/your-ride/q/1441111616_felixfander_stealth
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/readers-rides/your-ride/q/827121435_ghettotech_stealthor
I doubt they use those rims on a track do they?