Weight training exercises, barbell curls pointless for a trackie?

I went 10% faster by doing one-armed pushups with 100kg on my back. Chris Hoys trains like this now. Fact.

What were you doing with the other hand?

Lemon Party?

My right hand plays online poker professionally.

It's a little known fact that Hippy's right hand looks like this:

Shane needs to learn to use tissues.

I do enjoy how these threads turn into a flame fest, being constructive is much easer than acting like a d**k. Try it some time.

Tried it loads. I enjoy a healthy mix.

The search function, by the way, is also worth trying some time. There's no shortage of constructive contributions peppering these types of threads already.

I do enjoy how these threads turn into a flame fest, being constructive is much easer than acting like a d**k. Try it some time.

This: Doug Stanhope (abuse on the internet) - Weekly Wipe Ep 5 - YouTube

Tried it loads. I enjoy a healthy mix.

The search function, by the way, is also worth trying some time. There's no shortage of constructive contributions peppering these types of threads already.

Well make your own constructive contributions and add a link? I've searched loads on this forum, which seems to only be dominated by for sale threads when searching 'track sprinting'.

It may well be why there is a distinct lack of regular posting on here.

This: Doug Stanhope (abuse on the internet) - Weekly Wipe Ep 5 - YouTube

American humour? Always top drawer, like the american 'office' or American 'Inbetweeners'......

Well done xx

(Now that's humour....well sarcasm to be precise)

Well make your own constructive contributions and add a link? I've searched loads on this forum, which seems to only be dominated by for sale threads when searching 'track sprinting'.

It may well be why there is a distinct lack of regular posting on here.

I've already written loads in those discussions. I'm not going to do your searching for you too. Why not start with the most likely forums (track, general, rides and races), then experiment with in-post search terms like strength, conditioning, endurance, VO2Max, twitch fibres, cadence, souplesse, core, blah blah blah.

Stop fucking whingeing. And have a look at fixedgearfever.com too. Or ask a librarian to do a literature search for you in the relevant journals.

Is not for me, this isn't my thread.

Have a nice evening did we, relax.

Edit: and thanks for adding some search perimeters for us to try.

Very nice, thanks.

You're welcome. Doing research is similar to training in certain ways. If you want to get some decent results, you're going to have to put some effort in at some point. aimed at everyone in particular

Ive started my winter weight training based around olympic squat, deadlift, clean and press with different leg press variations and hyperetensions. during recovery days when my back or legs are still tender is there any point in doing some barbell curls, shrugs and other isolation/bodybuilding type exercises? .

Rather than doing barbell curls I would implement D.B. hammer curls which stress the Biceps Brachii , Brachialis and Brachiordialis these have the most potential for strength and make up the majority of the size of the biceps and also the gripping muscles of the forearm . After all it can't hurt to have strong forearms it gives you a direct connection to the bike .

Rather than doing barbell curls I would implement D.B. hammer curls which stress the Biceps Brachii , Brachialis and Brachiordialis these have the most potential for strength and make up the majority of the size of the biceps and also the gripping muscles of the forearm . After all it can't hurt to have strong forearms it gives you a direct connection to the bike .

A matter of opinion, but I would argue that straight bar curls work the biceps and forearms more thoroughly.

Doing curls at all will have no effect at all to anything on the bike other than impressing the ladies. And even then you have to work jolly hard at them for it to achieve anything.

Deadlifts, Rows, Pull ups etc... will give you the pulling strength across the body and in your arms and back to achieve anything worthwhile. Like making you rock solid and able to grip and brace yourself against the bike. The deadlifts will develop enormous amounts of strength done right, better than everything else combined pretty much. Which will allow you to create and apply the maximum amount of force possible. Which is the aim of the game, right?

I think to a degree the particular assistance exercises you choose is open to personal preference, but when regarding strength training I'm a big advocate that they be included ,as they show a great deal of carry over in strength advances in the main lifts .
In strength training circles for a long time folks were adverse to supplemental exercises believing them to be superfluous or purely for cosmetic purposes . Powerlifters were told not to press overhead as it detracted from lifting big numbers on the bench , however this has been dispelled in part through the teachings of the Westside guys , Dave Tate amongst others and on a broader level the widespread success of 5/3/1, promoting the overhead press and assistance work and even heaven forbid conditioning work like sled pulls etc .

Athletes usually need a multitude of exercises, both compound and isolation.
Primarily to target the specific sport strength but also to prevent imbalances that can occur from specificity.
Example: sprinters who base their program entirely around squat and deadlift will often develop anterior pelvic tilt.

The important thing to remember here is that 'adverse' means preventing success or development, harmful, unfavourable; whereas 'averse to' means strongly disinclined. 'Adverse to' doesn't even parse.

Everything else is moot.

Example: sprinters who base their program entirely around squat and deadlift will often develop anterior pelvic tilt.

Just go to the clinic. There's a cream for that.

The important thing to remember here is that 'adverse' means preventing success or development, harmful, unfavourable; whereas 'averse to' means strongly disinclined.

Everything else is moot.

I'm a big fan of only doing compound style exercises, if you wish to focus arms then do weighted pull ups or explosive clap press ups. Bicep curls and tricep curls may work, but when in life would you only use your bicep muscle without including your shoulder and back muscles?

RPM: Weak hamstrings?

RPM: Weak hamstrings?

Why not. I'll have a side of fries with those whilst I'm at it.

Hippy will pick up the bill.

Ive been reading Marty Nothsteins book, after he took up olympic lifting to develop more explosive power he apprently still/did curls in the gym too.
this was after Atlanta silver and before Sydney gold

Why not. I'll have a side of fries with those whilst I'm at it.
Hippy will pick up the bill.

The Scottish track team has retired.

The Scottish track team has retired.

Never mind Scotland.
Yorkshire on its own still beat everything the colonial cast-offs could manage.

Ive been reading Marty Nothsteins book, after he took up olympic lifting to develop more explosive power he apprently still/did curls in the gym too.

And does it say why?

If it doesn't, try and think about what kind of rider Nothstein was (and went on to be) and his physical characteristics etc.

To echo my earlier comments, and to provide a direct response to your OP of nearly two years back: No, it's unwise to completely rule out a particular exercise if it will help a rider address a particular weakness. Primarily your gym program should focus on specificity but it should also be flexible enough to ensure whole body muscular fitness and prevent imbalances.

I can't stress how important it is for a rider's gym program to be tailored to suit the individual.