Free the Swindon One!

I gather he's been utilising the "y" (not yentz) word and causing no end of hoo-ha for our dear leader which has resulted in yet another term on the naughty step without playtime.

Personally, I'm missing his carefully honed style of affection usually found (but not exclusively) in the Football thread. BP (Before Pisti) I had never heard any of his particular expressions. In his absence, let's use this thread to reminisce about all the flammable or offensive remarks he may have made since his apparent birth in 2007...

I know loads of swears but I'm struggling to think of one beginnign with y. Is it so bad it can't be repeated? If so give us a clue.

B&D just e-mail him about getting a room

I know loads of swears but I'm struggling to think of one beginnign with y. Is it so bad it can't be repeated? If so give us a clue.

It's not a swear word but an offensive term used, by some, to describe jews / Tottenham fans.

He was asked not to use it; he still did. Now he is banned.

Ah thanks - makes sense now.

It's also another swear word when spelt backwards....

s***

not it doesn't

Oh dear. Not being a football fan I am not up on these things, but isn't there a racism exception for talking about Tottenham FC and its fans - i.e. it's not considered offensive when used in that context because that is how they self-identify?

I'm beginning to take the view that everything ever uttered by football fans is inherently racist.

Oh dear. Not being a football fan I am not up on these things, but isn't there a racism exception for talking about Tottenham FC and its fans - i.e. it's not considered offensive when used in that context because that is how they self-identify?
Please don't confuse me with being a football fan either, but Tottenham FC is not Jewish. Its fans are not all Jewish. So, no.

Even if (and in my opinion that's a pretty big IF) it might be acceptable in some context's, it was made clear to him that in the football thread it was not acceptable, and he carried on regardless.

Oh dear. Not being a football fan I am not up on these things, but isn't there a racism exception for talking about Tottenham FC and its fans - i.e. it's not considered offensive when used in that context because that is how they self-identify?

Please don't confuse me with being a football fan either, but Tottenham FC is not Jewish. Its fans are not all Jewish. So, no.

Tottenham fans call themselves by the y word, and that's not generally seen to be racist, because they are re-appropriating a term of abuse that was directed at them because of the large proportion of Jewish fans they had.

But of course if you're calling somebody else it, not yourself, then it's not re-appropriation, it's just abuse.

Tottenham fans call themselves by the y word, and that's not generally seen to be racist, because they are re-appropriating a term of abuse that was directed at them because of the large proportion of Jewish fans they had.

But of course if you're calling somebody else it, not yourself, then it's not re-appropriation, it's just abuse.
That is a pretty good point, hadn't really thought of it that way. In this instance though, I think the second point you made is more appropriate.

I was under the impression that some Spurs fans do but others are not appreciative of it

Are the 'large proportion' of tottenham fans jewish?

Is it acceptable for a load of non-jewish tottenham fans to appropriate a word directed at them erroneously? [I, as a white male who occasionally wears a scruffy beard with no 'tache, has had anti-islamic abuse shouted at me from a car window. That does not give me a right to go round calling myself or real muslims some form of term usually regarded as anti-islamic].

Even if the appropriation is acceptable would any white man on here go round the projects of LA / detroit / Baltimore / wherever referring to every black man they see by every rapper's favourite word?

Is the y-word funny or clever or does its use make the world a better place on any level whatsoever?
That is also a bloody good point (god I'm fickle). FWIW, I'm Jewish but there is no way that I would ever use the word even to 'reclaim' it, simply because it has been used so much against Jewish people, myself included, in such horrible ways, that it's just a nasty word to use.

As a Jewish Spurs fan, the final word on this should probably go to David Aaronovitch:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070629172805/http://timesonline.typepad.com/david_aaronovitch/2007/03/aaronovitch_yid.html

Well I said 'not generally seen to be racist', which I think is true, at least within the football community.

I'm not saying I agree with it, and I wouldn't use it ever.

But as a Jew and an Arsenal fan, I'm not especially offended by Tottenham fans calling themselves it (usually something along the lines of 'come on the y.s') but I am disgusted when I hear an Arsenal fan say something like 'fuck off you ys', which is very rare thankfully.

As a jew i am offended that people think we all support spurs

I thought he was banned because of how other perceived his comment rather.

H.m.t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I think yes, although (and this is opening another can of worms)
not using racist language ≠ not racist (i.e. plenty of racist people will just learn what society deems to be acceptable without changing their core beliefs)

Seriously though Jeez, chin-strap beards can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Without the Swindon One, I would have no knowledge of, or ability to use the terms:

MELT
WEAPON
BEDWETTER
HELMET
FULL KIT WANKER (applicable to wearers of team kit whichever sport they play, not just football)
PLASTIC

I can't think of any others at the moment, but will add to the list as and when..

Bedwetter sums up many people to a T.
Dont know why some find it offensive.
Here's one to describe legions of local government employees-
TIMESERVER