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This article? http://sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html#angle
He says close to level here, with some men preferring the nose slightly angled up. "Slightly" will be up to the individual.
I say it is standard based on most Brooks saddles that I've observed and owned, and what most promoters of Brooks saddles suggest. The benefit? Comfort, obviously.

So, as you say, pretty close to horizontal... That Bob Jackson posted few pages back looks like the saddle is like a plane taking off... So it's just not right to justify this by using the brooks design as an excuse, or the "pretty close to horizontal rule"... I was looking at the Alex Singer book this WE again, these bikes have leather saddles, rarely brooks I must admit. Some are pointing up a little, but only a very little, and these bikes had a very trad geometry, with only a few centimeters of saddle post showingt, and where the saddle is not that much higher than the handle bars compared to that bob jackson... Just imagine trying to go on the drops with that setting, I don't see the benefit of comfort, sorry? People / bikes on here are being severely criticized for much minor problems, thrown in anti porn, newbies are being told off, etc... So when someone like Ed, who knows his shit, is a true enthousiast, brings (I find) interesting info / picture references into the threads, but also don't hesitate to often give his opinions, shows a saddle angle like it should be a horror movie, I don't want to hear about brooks design and the "close to horizontal" rule, because it's not relevant.
I made nightmares about that saddle...