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• #27
The lug itself is clumsy and quite chunky. Not graceful like a Colnago, Gios, Olmo or similar from that period. Could it be an American frame I wonder ?
The BB thread would give us more ideas.
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• #28
Also advertised on retrobike..............same consensus, def not Colnago.
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• #29
better check the rest of the collection is genuine
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• #30
If you split, how much for the Colnago transfers?
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• #31
Perhaps it is a Colin Ago bike?.....Flame throwers been out on Retrobike and they are a mild lot compared to LFGSS!
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• #32
Hmm not even the front fork ends look right in the way the fork blades taper & are flat on the sides.
As said, that seat lug certainly look to be a Colnago, nor the tops of the rear seat stays either. The BB is a veritable puzzle.
I did have a Mexico but it was too big for me, & now can't recall it's exact details, except it had 1/2 chrome fork ends & seat stays, & that was pitted.
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• #33
if you split, how much for the colnago transfers?
lol
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• #34
we should not be too hasty,
it could be a mythical beast, one of 3 alleged Colnago's made for the Sutton Male Balloon dancing team in '86 -
• #35
I hate to throw more water onto the obviously out of control chip pan, tho I cannot stop myself...bad toad....;)
Shouldn't you have smelt the kipper when you bought a 'racing' geometry frame...with a longer top tube than seat tube? that screams 'sedate' and not 'pointy'...I am reading what has been written correctly?
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• #36
I once had a Colnago track frame- well, that's what the stickers said so it must be true.......the warm glow disappeared when there were obvious front mech pinch marks on the seat tube, graceful lugs yes, but no clover leaf engraving anywhere.
I guess it might have been parked next to a real Colnago at some stage in its life......
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• #37
Hmm not even the front fork ends look right in the way the fork blades taper & are flat on the sides.
.The head tube lugs look really heavy and not graceful enough either, and as diablo says...those fork ends are way way way wrong, they scream recent and I hate to say it...cheap...they look like they could bend easily...
On a lighter note...it's a nice collection of parts...just get a new frame...
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• #38
this may be of help
http://saarf.net/2013/02/19/how-to-spot-a-fake-colnago/ -
• #39
Thank you saarf............ super link.............
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• #40
no worries
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• #41
Epic thread and thanks for that link saarf.
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• #42
no worries fella, keep your chin up and have a Brandy on me
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• #43
Too late to dibs? I guess it's gone by now...
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• #44
Too late to dibs? I guess it's gone by now...
Think you would make the poor chaps day !!!!
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• #45
I think the decals have already been soaked off
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• #46
Forget this pearl. Benotto 3000 is the real thing: http://www.lfgss.com/thread99466.html I've never seen a Benotto 3000 like this one...
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• #47
Deore brakes (they look like sram force brake calipers to me??? What are you on amigo?
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• #48
I think the Benotto is a slightly different kettle of fish from the Colnago. Aside from the bike refurbishing with less than original paint, and stickers ...oh, and yes the fork doesn't belong here, there is another thing which puzzles me and that is the cable routing on the top tube. Most pre-mexican 3000's I have seen had cable loops on the top tube and not internal routing. In the early 80's some Benotto 3000 models had internal routing but whether these were made in Italy is a question. Having said that many good frames were built in Mexico as well...not all broke. Still think this looks like a 3000...but then I have been wrong before.
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• #49
Not a 3000, imo: http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=237788
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• #50
Well, I'll be...
The scooped seat stay tops are very similar to Gios ones ?????
That BB shell doesn't look like any Colnago shell i've ever seen.