• Not had any problems with butted spokes, have had a few balls though my wheels recently though, either the cold or Mancs are all hard hitters now. I'd also recommend my halo freedom discs if your running disc brakes, reasonably light and mega strong, I rarely bother to look after my wheels and they stay pretty damn straight, going to true and tension properly for only the second time since getting them soon, must of had the wheels nearly 2 years now.

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