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• #352
I'm using triple butted spokes, they seem to bend easier but if you don't mind using some corex then the wheel is as strong. I'm not sure how much corex adds to it so it may defeat the point.
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• #353
Interesting* discussion here on spokes:
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-485868.html
Seems to come to the conclusion that PG spokes will make for a stronger wheel as a whole, but their fatigue life isn't as good as DB spokes.
While the extra strength of the wheel built with PG will be good in terms of crashes etc., maybe DB spokes are a better bet in terms of absorbing impacts from the ball?
Overall, it'll come back to how well the wheel is built in the first place, and how well it's maintained through its life.*Note to self: Get out more
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• #354
*Note to everyone else: keep the maintenance up to keep the costs down.
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• #355
Regular maintenance is the best way.
But if you can't be arsed with maintenance sapim strong are heavy but mean you never need to do anything!
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• #356
Does anyone here riding dodici 48 super tough and heavy?
too heavy?Im strongly hesitating to take a set of wheels already build with profiles hubs.
As the gordo' not avaible anymore, is there any other 48 than chukkers?
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• #357
700c or 26"?
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• #358
26".
770gr per rim.
1.35 kojak tyre
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• #359
I've been using a Rigida touring rim in my front wheel for about 6 months. Got it from SJS for crazy cheap - http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/rigida-26-x-175-26-inch-559-atb-alloy-rim-48-hole-prod6739/
I can't work out why it's so cheap, eyleted box section, pinned (minor downside), a little narrow compared to most mtb rims but I'm using a 1.6" on mine and it's not excessively round. Not damaged mine in any way yet, which is good as I have a habit of beating up my front wheels -
• #360
braking surface?
weight?
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• #361
Why 48 hole?
36 should be enough for 26". I've hardly ever had a ball through mine.
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• #362
They have a good unpainted braking surface, I forget the weight. I'm going to get another couple soon so I can weigh them then.
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• #363
I saw big shot go trought 48, 26"... i don't want a 36. Also 12 spokes difference isn't a big deal with weight difference non?.
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• #364
770g for a 26"? Fuck that!
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• #365
I've had plenty shots go through my 48 spokes lately, I think it's the cold making the balls harder. I figured 36h/light covers would equate to a similar weight but better hub/rim choice and reduced chance of penetration even further. Hopping isn't an element I had factored in.
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• #366
The clear covers that Jono and Luca used seem to work in stopping the ball. I think it was 0.5mm lexan or something like that. Flexible enough to fold iirc
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• #367
clem thats about double the weight of my wheels. Your thighs must be trunks to be able to hop that shit.
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• #368
Not had any problems with butted spokes, have had a few balls though my wheels recently though, either the cold or Mancs are all hard hitters now. I'd also recommend my halo freedom discs if your running disc brakes, reasonably light and mega strong, I rarely bother to look after my wheels and they stay pretty damn straight, going to true and tension properly for only the second time since getting them soon, must of had the wheels nearly 2 years now.
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• #369
You are not maintaining your wheels/your spokes are not tensioned correctly.
I've had plenty shots go through my 48 spokes lately, I think it's the cold making the balls harder. I figured 36h/light covers would equate to a similar weight but better hub/rim choice and reduced chance of penetration even further. Hopping isn't an element I had factored in.
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• #370
O'shane:
Can you fit 1.35 kojak into the rigida?
Are they lighter than 770 gr you think?
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• #371
Talking of saving weight, for the Kojaks, use folding, not wired, they are a lot more expensive, but a hell of a lot lighter.
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• #372
Folding 295g vs Wired 395g. Same for Durano, just different rubber compounds.
Mavic XC717Disc: listed as 395g.
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• #373
You are not maintaining your wheels/your spokes are not tensioned correctly.
Hmm, well they are straight. The spokes are probably too tight but I wouldn't have thought that would results in the ball passing through. I'll have a look again! By lots of balls I mean maybe one a night if I am spending a lot of time in goals.
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• #374
The clear covers that Jono and Luca used seem to work in stopping the ball. I think it was 0.5mm lexan or something like that. Flexible enough to fold iirc
I've used lexan before, it sounds like you're trying to move a filing cabinate about but it's proper light/tough. Has anyone tried the HDPE covers fixcraft offer?
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• #375
O'shane:
Can you fit 1.35 kojak into the rigida?
Are they lighter than 770 gr you think?
You'll definitely fit a 1.35" on there.
I think they're probably a lot less than 770g. Didn't feel that heavy when I built them.
Cool, I'm thinking more from the perspective of 'best' rather than will suffice. Is it worth going butted for reduced rotational weight or is it still considered a compromise too far in terms of strength for polo?