Strava

"Steps to take when investigating GPS Issues
Be Patient!"

https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/20971381-troubleshooting-android-gps-issues

#lol

#win

Surely you've just contradicted yourself, posting that?

Or are you sticking to "if he waits long enough, his network will upgrade his phone"?

Even Strava suggest waiting. LOLwoof

#win

I'm not sure why you are so dead set on not helping this chap.

I'm not sure why you have so little clue about this issue. I'm the only one who has provided useful advice of waiting for a lock before commencing the run. You are claiming all kinds of bullshit about phones and OS problems which are clearly WRONG.

Eh? You've denied he has a problem, and continued to do so to bolster your own argument.

The fact remains that he should get a lock pretty much at once, but he doesn't.

Therefore there must be an issue, possibly one that can be resolved.

Or denied- in your case.

i.e. we could actually move on and do something useful if you'd man up and admit you are wrong.

The only thing you've contributed that's any use is a link that says that there are issues with some Android phone- in direct contradiction of your own position.

More bollocks. I said I haven't had a problem. I've said his model device doesn't have a problem and I've stated a solution to his perceived problem - waiting until you have a lock before starting a run.

You've blamed 'Android handset/OS combinations' which is clearly bollocks in this case.

You still seem blissfully unaware of how phone GPS systems work. You still don't account for any external factors and you're still wrong.

Oh right, well I've got a Samsung galaxy s2 and it had been working fine with strava gps until recently, same with my friends android phones. I was wondering if it was a dodgy update or something

Just in case you are still in denial, the issue was never "oh my GPS doesn't lock instantly" the issue was NO LOCK. NONE. NADA.

But the device has worked and does work normally as stated by the user.

So, once again, you explanation about particular devices not working with particular version of the OS doesn't hold true in this situation.

Your continual failure to account for external factors leaves your argument looking extremely weak.

You do know that from time to time the military can disable GPS for particular areas? No, you don't cater for things like that. "It's the phone, it's the phone!"

#win

Anecdata has as much value as statistical data. Scientific rationality is far from infallible.

If you caress the corners of your phone it will getter a quicker lock.

I use Dammit's Magic Sprinkles. Available at all good GPS Locks R Us stores.

Wow, this has kicked off a bit!

I've started around 20 runs/rides from the Kingston area (wide open space, no lead helmets, no reindeers) and every time I've been fine locking onto a signal within about a minute of starting my strava activity (I tend not to wait for it to locate because every time it has worked fine after a minute delay or so), this equates to around 300m of running, or a km on the bike, whatever. Anyway a week ago within a couple of days, it hasn't picked up a signal at any point. And having not experienced any issues before, me and a couple of friends (andriod users) have all been hit with the same thing at the same time (2 of them have had the same issue but in sheffield (possibly a worse signal)).

Essentially I thought it might be an android specific update or something which caused it, because two other friends with iphones, in the same area doing the same activity, had no problems and locked on within about 10 seconds.

In summary... bit annoying. Use a garmin edge 500 now on my bike, probably could use it on the runs as well.

massive sigh

How do you explain that bit, Skippy?

Their GPS was turned off. Their cached GPS location had expired thereby taking longer to get a lock. Strava had crashed. They didn't sprinkle magic dust on their phones before leaving. Any number of reasons.

Once again, since you seem intent on ignoring these things..

Variable performance
The GPS system includes the chip in your device as well as the satellites above the Earth. So even if your device is in the same place and the same setting as before, it may behave differently from one day to the next. Typically, the device needs to receive signals from about 5 satellites to get an accurate estimate of its position. With the changing position of the satellites, changing weather patterns, and the changing nature of the Earth's outer atmosphere, there are enough parts of the GPS system outside of your direct control and observation that it is difficult to make conclusions about what specifically is causing inconsistent performance. We recommend you try repeatedly before making a judgement about the best ways to work with your device's GPS in your setting.

Tips: Improving phone GPS performance
Turn phone off/on
Turn satellites off/on
Perform an "AGPS reset": Install the App GPS Status & Toolbox, then in that app, Menu -> Tools ->
Manage A-GPS State -> Reset, and then Menu -> Tools -> Manage A-GPS State -> Download.

https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/20971381-troubleshooting-android-gps-issues

Turn satellites off/on

Hmmm... either I would need very long arms or a big fuck off remote control to do that.

Hmmm... either I would need very long arms or a big fuck off remote control to do that.

It's based around the config screen terminology..

Tthey don't mean the actual satellites.. although...

Right you whinging bastards.

Might do this new quarq 100mi thing tomorrow. Brighton and back. 16.5-17mph moving avg as it'll be cold. Anyone want in? No cake stops.

Just tried again, and gave up after about 4 mins of waiting outside for a signal (same place which worked in about 30 seconds a week ago). It's not the model of the handset, the S2 works - I've been using it! It's just recently the GPS has packed up. Just thought it was a coincidence that friends phones had the same problem (galaxy ace and galaxy mini I think) but the ones with iPhones have always had a lock in a matter of seconds...

For the record, the quickest I've ever got a GPS lock on my s2 at any point, in any place was about 30 seconds

Right you whinging bastards.

Might do this new quarq 100mi thing tomorrow. Brighton and back. 16.5-17mph moving avg as it'll be cold. Anyone want in? No cake stops.

Watch out for ice and the Brighton/lfgss curse…

My GPS fired up straight away earlier this morning using a Samsung Galaxy Ace Plus which I hear is old-hat, but easily makes all my previous phones cower.

Still haven't beaten my first effort over a mile sprint - would like to shave 4 seconds off to make the first page of the leaderboard, instead of falling short by that same margin like I just have. Until then I'm a shell of a man, but it demonstrates the psychology of competing. First bash I expected nothing so just rode - now I'm thinking of technique/strategy which is doing me no good. I need rid of making comparisons by finding the freedom to just ride without thinking; shame then that's exactly what Strava's not about.

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/2d6/290/641/resized/unstoppable-force-meme-generator-this-is-what-happens-when-an-unstoppable-force-meets-an-immovable-object-2a088a.jpg?1353183894.jpg

This is all getting terribly boring.

That's why I stopped bothering to reply, we were going round and round in circles- and that's something that Strava is notoriously poor at recording, see any number of 70mph+ laps of Herne Hill etc.