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I have nothing against carbon fibre. The problem is with a lot of the products on the market--- and I'm equally critical of a lot of CNC junk as well. A number of my friends work with carbon fibre. Keeping to bicycles.. A very good friend has been building carbon fibre frames and wheels since the 1990s---- a large number of road and cyclecross wins on his wheels and a world championship on one of his frames. If you want to hear stuff against carbon fibre you could listen to them...
And its not just "a bike". That's the mindset of the twits in their cars that view bicycles as a children's toy. Its also the mindset of quite a few companies selling inferior lifestyle bicycle products. Product safety should not be taken lightly. A catastrophic failure of a wheel, handlebar, seat post, fork, pedal axle or.. can be quite dangerous. And I've seen them all happen.. And its not a question of supermarket bicycles or poorly maintained Freds.. I seen these failures at the highest levels of elite cyclesport..