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  • Habanero are cheap may still be to expensive tho, like 1000 usd for frame (prolly more if custom) Have no experience with them but others seem to be satisfied. Think they outsource the actual labor to china. Might be cheaper to go direct to asia.

    Do you really need custom? Id buy a used brand name over a new unheard of (but thats me). So many nice deals on used bikes these days.

    Edit: looking abit at the rtf frame n fork, i wouldent be suprised if thats the same factory that builds for burls (and kocmo).

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