Winter gloves

^Problem with posts like this is I read it and think "sounds good, I shall buy some" and end up with 15 pairs of gloves, none of which actually keep my hands warm.

My Craft Lobster gloves were defeated by the cold this morning, with merino liners in.

Wat really? I have this same setup and my hands were warm. I have been riding slower on purpose though.

Are they loose on your hands?