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Chalfie,
all valid points, you'll know more about the Championship state of play, but Holloway at Crystal Palace, a quick gander at the table, shows they are still in 4th, 10 points off top, but only two below 2nd and automatic promotion, last ten games won 2, lost three, drawn the rest. So he's not made them any worse since his arrival and the speculation about Zaha's future can't be helping matters either..
With Wigan, Martinez has been there a while now, and keeping them up every year after players are poached, and unearthing cheap gems, Valencia, Figueroa, Diame, Kone, Rodallega (though I think he's overrated) as well..
I kind of think like Moyes at Everton, he's run his course there, he and we need to see what he can do with a bit more stability, a bit more money to burn and a higher quality of footballer. I like the fact he's not a knee jerk manager, ready to throw the ref/linesman under the bus when decisions go against him, and his teams play good, attacking football. Wigan have overachieved under his tenure, and I'm still not sure why he hasn't made the break. Wonder if he'd consider dropping down a division to manage one of the sleeping championship giants and to bring them back up...