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I used 18g in my Gaggia classic last night, some lavazza rossa they we got bought from the super market. It was too much and I went batshit crazy. Tried 12g today with Small Batch Goldstone Espresso ground and it was significantly better but def weaker. I think between 12g and 14g is going to work for me. There is space after tamping but you can compress quite a lot and you get a nice crema #stillanoob