Football

Just crap from Spurs.

Freddie always denied being gay.

There are probably a lot of gay footballers and even more gay football supporters. Football is wonderful in that it is one of the only passionate things available that is totally devoid of sex. Homophobia intrudes into this post Fruedian oasis. The sooner people are what they are and other people who have no interest in what they are stop worrying about what they are the better.

There are definitely gay, male (the current coach of the England women is out, as are senior international female players) professional football players. The chances of there being zero male gay football players is impossibly small. Rugby has an out gay senior international captain. Yet another way in which rugby union is superior to football.

Others are: having ex-player summarisers who can form a coherent & comprehensible sentence, and are willing to criticise former colleagues; miked up refs; video replay refs; total lack of dissent.

I'm not a big union fan, and have never paid to watch a game, BTW.

I find it odd that, whenever the question of homophobia in football is raised, people start speculating about which players might be gay like giggling school kids. Fucking grow up, do you do that about colleagues, about friends?

I once scored a try at Twickers... Assist was from Gareth Edwards...
#truestorybro

^^Not aimed at Bill btw...

Chelsea are often the subject of homophobic abuse. The idea being that people who can read and wash must find other people of the same sex attractive.

British professional football culture is notoriously intolerant of literacy in general. Graeme Le Saux got endless stick from his colleagues for reading the Guardian.

You're probably referring to...
"He's gay,
He's bent,
His arse is up for rent,
Graeme Le Saux, Graeme Le Saux"

British professional football culture is notoriously intolerant of literacy in general. Graeme Le Saux got endless stick from his colleagues for reading the Guardian.

And from that Liverpool legend Robbie Fowler...

I find it odd that, whenever the question of homophobia in football is raised, people start speculating about which players might be gay like giggling school kids. Fucking grow up, do you do that about colleagues, about friends?

Yeah, but that's why it would be helpful for there to be an atmosphere where it wasn't an issue. Everyone must realise that some are gay, so of course some will speculate, the same way that others speculate about which player is knocking off someone else's wife, or what the real reason is that keeps getting Nicky Barmby the sack.

Not just his colleagues. Fowler's behaviour was truly odious.

Le Saux is married with kids. What must it be like to actually be gay when you see the treatment given to those who are just imagined to be gay?

Le Saux is married with kids. What must it be like to actually be gay when you see the treatment given to those who are just imagined to be gay?

Or they could look back what happened to poor Justin Fashanu, who actually did come out.

Just crap from Spurs.

Freddie always denied being gay.

There are probably a lot of gay footballers and even more gay football supporters. Football is wonderful in that it is one of the only passionate things available that is totally devoid of sex. Homophobia intrudes into this post Fruedian oasis. The sooner people are what they are and other people who have no interest in what they are stop worrying about what they are the better.

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Chelsea are often the subject of homophobic abuse. The idea being that people who can read and wash must find other people of the same sex attractive.

At one game where the abuse was being even more tiresome than usual, a particularly large and possibly reformed (although I sometimes doubt it) hooligan of my acquaintance who was in the row behind me, suddenly started a booming chant of "We'll bum you all outside".

I know his girlfriend and therefore doubt that he is gay himself, but I did rather enjoy that response and the look on the faces of the abusive home supporters sat near us when they saw this 25 stone man mountain with a evil look in his eyes threatening sodomy upon them.

metrosexuals with money to lavish on smelly stuff ... stylish

Throwing this one in here http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/mar/12/the-secret-footballer-gay-players

Media, fans and players all should make a stand against racism, homophobia, sexism, ageism, and any other unacceptable -ism.

Le Saux recounted the incident in his autobiography: “I didn’t go out of my way to stand up for gay rights, but my situation dictated that I did. The way I see it, there are people in the gay community that are going to be football fans and that means there are young people who might be confused about their sexuality. They need support, so when Robbie Fowler attempts to humiliate me in public, all the kids in that position feel pretty s***ty about themselves.
“More than anything in my career, that offended me. What he did was wrong and he has never admitted that. He still talks as if it was a bit of a laugh. I just think there should be someone in his life who says, ‘Robbie, you were out of order’.”

Fowler is an odious man.

Le Saux is a legend.

I've met Mrs Ljungberg.

She's lovely, of course.

You've met her?

Pisti, on the other hand.....

I was at work and the opportunity to get a nosh from her didn't really present itself.

Not sure if Pisti's met her.

I love this thread. A couple of silly remarks about who or who might not be gay. childish at worst, get's people up in arms. But casual sexist comments like this go unremarked.

Not that I give a fuck either way. Too much shit in the world without getting all uppity about everything

I find it odd that, whenever the question of homophobia in football is raised, people start speculating about which players might be gay like giggling school kids. Fucking grow up, do you do that about colleagues, about friends?

we spend the transfer window speculating about who might move from one team to another
can't we speculate what footballers move from in the closet to out of it ?

we spend the transfer window speculating about who might move from one team to another
can't we speculate what footballers move from in the closet to out of it ?

And you can't see the difference?

you're right, i'm not very PC am I
i'll do a weeks volunteer work at the Millie Tant shelter for gay disabled abused transgender women / men to make up for it

so we should care about who moves from one club to another but we should not care if they go to rock concerts or musicals

gotcha

sol campbell he's def not gay

but we do not and should not care either way, see my post above