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I like the T1 - wasn't much love for them when they were sold, but great frame.
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51/17 only leaves you with 1 skid patch, pretty much a death sentence for tyres if you're fixie-skidding about the place. Go down to 18t and you'll save yourself plenty of money
p.s. did you take off an Izumi Super-toughness for a KMC chain????
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• #4
The bikes for covering the 21 miles too work as quickly as possible, no skidding required!
Old chain was a KMC of some sort, not long enough for the new gearing.. Are Izumi supertougness the daddy of FGSS? It's all new to me..
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Its a chain... A chain is a chain is a chain.
Unless you are Chris Hoy it really shouldent matter
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First up, turns out it is a homage to that twat lance. A respray is on the cards!
Whatever.
Interest lost.
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Ah yes, the T1: a track frame created to celebrate lances 7 straight wins at that famous track meet, the 'tour de france'
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Old chain was a KMC of some sort, not long enough for the new gearing.. Are Izumi supertougness the daddy of FGSS? It's all new to me..
Ah right! Izumi Super-Toughness are the big daddy of fixxie-skidder chains. It's the NJS track chain, so Keirin riders use it, and that NJS fixation has spilled over into street fixed gear stuff. In my experience, it's smooth, silent and the power transfer seems efficient*, definitely the best chain I've had on my skidder-bike
*the last one is absolute bollocks and I know it. The other two stand.
Its a chain... A chain is a chain is a chain.
Unless you are Chris Hoy it really shouldent matter
After a certain point, you're probably right, and the Super-toughness certainly suffers from hipster-tax, but if you can afford it, why not*? You probably won't notice the difference between a £30 chain and a £60 chain, but definitely between a £10 chain and a £60 chain.
If you DO happen to be Chris Hoy - you use the best. Hoy rides a Super Toughness. So does Pendleton.
*deffo didn't buy mine at RRP
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Ah yes, the T1: a track frame created to celebrate lances 7 straight wins at that famous track meet, the 'tour de france'
Used to end on the Vélodrome de Vincennes, in Eddy M's day.
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Used to end on the Vélodrome de Vincennes, in Eddy M's day.
... on a road bike.
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Ah right! Izumi Super-Toughness are the big daddy of fixxie-skidder chains. It's the NJS track chain, so Keirin riders use it, and that NJS fixation has spilled over into street fixed gear stuff. In my experience, it's smooth, silent and the power transfer seems efficient*, definitely the best chain I've had on my skidder-bike
*the last one is absolute bollocks and I know it. The other two stand.
It makes the road feel much more like a keirin track.
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• #12
And the thread title should be more like 'EPO, testosterone, steroid, blood transfusion, and God knows what else-boosted Trek T1'.
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• #13
Update, the thread needs a new name: Trek t1 the most sophisticated doping scheme in sport.
3,000 miles later the bikes put me through a lot of pain and a lot of changes but I fecking love riding it and its just about perfect now.
Rebuilt the whole cockpit with a 90mm Cinelli stem attached to lola bull horns with Cinelli AVS gel pads wrapped under Cinelli bar tape and a TT lever for braking.
Gearing has come down to 51x18 for Winter. I love the velosolo store.
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Ah right! Izumi Super-Toughness are the big daddy of fixxie-skidder chains. It's the NJS track chain, so Keirin riders use it, and that NJS fixation has spilled over into street fixed gear stuff. In my experience, it's smooth, silent and the power transfer seems efficient*, definitely the best chain I've had on my skidder-bike
*the last one is absolute bollocks and I know it. The other two stand.
After a certain point, you're probably right, and the Super-toughness certainly suffers from hipster-tax, but if you can afford it, why not*? You probably won't notice the difference between a £30 chain and a £60 chain, but definitely between a £10 chain and a £60 chain.
If you DO happen to be Chris Hoy - you use the best. Hoy rides a Super Toughness. So does Pendleton.
*deffo didn't buy mine at RRP
I've just changed the chain on my track bike from a Sram PC-1 to an NJS approved HKK Vertex, difference is noticeable but I doubt I put out enough power to trouble the Sram. The HKK does seem to run smoother though which is nice.
On my street fixie I have a policy of replacing chains pretty regularly, like 3-4 times a year. I find that doing so allows me to minimise wear to my cogs and chainrings and I've yet to replace one of these because it's been worn. I could almost afford too use HKKs like this if I bought them from my recently discovered Japanese ebay source but there's something about letting such a well engineered chain get exposed to grit and corrosion that doesn't sit right with me so I'll probably carry on with the £5 kmc/sram things.
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iPete flip the chain please, it is upside down at the moment
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iPete flip the chain please, it is upside down at the moment
as per the first couple of picsIt is, but as the Kool chain was originally designed for bmx it probably doesn't matter.
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instead of being an internet specialist, I think it is both safer and better to assume the manufacturer knows better:)
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You probably won't notice the difference between a £30 chain and a £60 chain.
Or a £9 Wipperman chain that seemed to be rust-proof and last very well.
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instead of being an internet specialist, I think it is both safer and better to assume the manufacturer knows better:)
True, I'm basing my hypothesis on the fact that the Kool chain is a product of the era when sprocket grinds were all the rage in bmx and annoyingly KMC just calls the Kool chain shape "Special Dynamic Configured Plates" but doesn't explain what they are dynamically configured to do.
If we really wanted to assume the manufacturer knew best though we'd keep the bmx chains for bmx bikes and put a track chain on a track bike.
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iPete flip the chain please, it is upside down at the moment
as per the first couple of picsAs mentioned in the original post, chain was refitted shortly after, rookie error by me!
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ah my bad, sorry about that..
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• #22
No worries, luckily someone on another forum pointed it out before taking it out... still no idea why I ordered a bmx chain!
Think I need to find a more 'compliant' carbon fork, this thing rattles along constantly, messing with my joints! #oldbeforemytime
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Think I need to find a more 'compliant' carbon fork, this thing rattles along constantly, messing with my joints! #oldbeforemytime
Cheapest and easiest solution is to make sure your tyres pressure is correct for your weight, as a lots of people have a bad habit of pumping up the tyres too hard not letting it adsorb the road vibration effectively.
Alternately get a bigger tyres says 25c or 28c to run an even lower pressure.
Picked up my first single speed last week. Not the most original but I think it'll be enough to get me hooked.
First up, turns out it is a homage to that twat lance. A respray is on the cards!
Put down over 200 miles last week and love it, except I found myself spinning along like a tumble drier someone has just lobbed a brick into. Here she is last week running 42x15
Put a new stronglight 51t, superlight KMC chain and Velosolo 17t cog on yesterday.
Can't decide on bars, prefer the bull horns to the Deda Newton that arrived at the weekend.
Might go for a 3t ergonova and deffo needs a comfier saddle.
May also need recommendations for a chiropractor.
edit: chain was upside down for these pics. rookie.