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Finally succomed to the Rapha hype and bought pair of pro team bib shorts(to match my newly acquired retro steed) yes I know bit indulgent but do some long rides and used assos/endura/solo/various club shorts over the years so figured gotta be worth a punt .. Got them bit cheaper too and first impressions are good.. Quality is easily on
Par with my mid range assos s5 and as comfy ..