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Fair enough. I listened to an interview with her on the BBC before the last election and the person they had translating was putting in... a bit more "emotion" than Le Pen herself had been. So I know what you mean. But the fact that she is a moderate in terms of the FN should not be a surprise. That's the point. She's still the leader of the FN, she's still fairly xenophobic and a nationalist. Just not as much as other people in her party.