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  • regarding bluefleet's chislehurst route, that hill by the station is a bit if a kicker, and if the traffic's heavy will be hugely unpleasant (it is narrow and the cars get a bit pushy both behind you and coming towards you).
    I prefer orchard -> sundridge -> camden park as you get a bit more space and the hill is a tiny bit more manageable. a little further, though. maybe.

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