Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Alex/Scoot if they are too big I will take them! I have to say I have rather large hands but I have Rapha track gloves in xs. It's obviously men's xs so more like a large m for a lady I guess?

Yeah they're men's size XS, so would fit a ladies S/M I'd say.

The deep winter collar is a wee bit thicker but the main difference is that it has two parts to it, so you can put one bit over your nose/mouth if it's really cold and the bottom bit stays around your neck. The gap between chin and neck means that you can still breath properly. It sounds pretty good but I haven't tried it myself.

I can pull the collar over my face while it still stays in place about the bottom of the neck, never been a problem unless you pull from the bottom of the collar?

Sounds like you could be wearing it upside down.

Think I'm going to be good to myself this Christmas but I Cant decide between...
Pro team jacket - softshell (http://www.rapha.cc/pro-team-jacket/)
or
Rain jacket (http://www.rapha.cc/rain-jacket/)
The Pro team jacket isn't waterproof which worries me,although I don't usually set off in rain. Has anyone experience of wearing the Rain jacket as a normal jacket in all weathers? Would I be warm enough in the rain jacket with a decent baselayer + jersey underneath?

Think I'm going to be good to myself this Christmas but I Cant decide between...
Pro team jacket - softshell (http://www.rapha.cc/pro-team-jacket/)
or
Rain jacket (http://www.rapha.cc/rain-jacket/)
The Pro team jacket isn't waterproof which worries me,although I don't usually set off in rain. Has anyone experience of wearing the Rain jacket as a normal jacket in all weathers? Would I be warm enough in the rain jacket with a decent baselayer + jersey underneath?

I have the team rain jacket.

I did a semi fast 70k on a cold day with the jacket, base layer, and jersey
and it was fine.

At the end of the ride it pXXXXd down with rain and the jacket was fine.

I own both and much prefer the pro team jacket as an all rounder. Pockets in the back, toasty warm but not a sweatbox like my rain jacket. After three years of using my rain jacket (and one mid-term reproofing) they're about as waterproof as each other, but the pro team is warmer when damp.

Hmm.

Pro team jacket.

I've been wearing base layer, jersey and Rain jacket, and been toasty warm- too warm, sometimes.

The same thing but without the Sauna aspect sounds very enticing.

Get it. Seriously. PTJ + base layer has got me through the coldest of the recent weather. And the fit if its ace.

yep, ptj and baselayer was perfect for laps of Regents Park last night

I got my new medium cross jersey from Rapha yesterday, fit is much better.

Very impressed with the size down service.

PTJ- c'est combien?

loadsamoney

I did a semi fast 70k on a cold day with the jacket, base layer, and jersey
and it was fine.

I find my rain jacket too warm with a base layer and jersey if it's cold. I always end up unzipping it, which is annoying. As 6pt says it's a bit boil in the bag if you're putting effort in (in my experience).

It also has no easily accessible rear pockets, which means I can't easily grab food out of the pockets like with a jersey.

I've therefore asked Father Christmas for the Pro Team jacket.

In other Rapha news, I can't believe nobody's called them up on this:

£70! For a diary! Ok it's leather, but that's ridiculous. I think that's just earnt the most stupidly-priced Rapha item so far. Diaries used to often be given away free by suppliers to customers (before the internet), including leather ones, I've had a few like that. I reckon they're having a giraffe...

I've also asked Father Christmas for Nigel Peake's Bicycle Travel Journal which looks lovely, does the same job and costs £12.95. Delivered :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321041319395?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

thats even more ridiculous

i think i am going for an espresso, appears to be profitable

^^ I love the casual use of the word "Fixie" at the end of the listing title.

He knows his audience.

I've got two of those.. which I bought not lifted like a lot of people did. Allegedly

£70! For a diary! Ok it's leather, but that's ridiculous. I think that's just earnt the most stupidly-priced Rapha item so far. Diaries used to often be given away free by suppliers to customers (before the internet), including leather ones, I've had a few like that. I reckon they're having a giraffe...

I hadn't noticed the price. Jokes.

If you can handle your £20 coffee mug without the black stripe, you can get them here for £7.65. They have the cappuccino cups etc. as well.

extremely comfortable handle

I hadn't noticed the price. Jokes.

If you can handle your £20 coffee mug without the black stripe, you can get them here for £7.65. They have the cappuccino cups etc. as well.

I have some of those - they're even cheaper if you buy a set.

Someone appears to have an awful lot of buyers regret:

Ebay-jacksupertrooper

Someone appears to have an awful lot of buyers regret:

Ebay-jacksupertrooper

I smell something fishy

Someone appears to have an awful lot of buyers regret:

Ebay-jacksupertrooper

prob Simon Mottram makes extra dollar on ebay

Or just someone passing on sample sale savings oh wait

Bicycle Travel Journal[/i] which looks lovely, does the same job and costs £12.95. Delivered :)

I got this for christmas last year - it's a really lovely little thing