Rat Bikes! Pub Bikes Beaters! Frankenbikes!

"It's proper carbon steel but it's not come out of the cave for fifteen years - it's yours if you want it" was probably where I stopped thinking properly.

This doesn't stop

Dude, that's just a cheap hybrid...

Anti

from being right.
Even accepting the logic of

...as cheap as poss, a rat can be expensive parts, they just need to be v well used. not that it matters, this isnt porn thread

I think I'd be better off waiting for a more suitable starting point - thanks for the opinions

(goes away to look for further signs of senility)