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Fully internal wiring, mainly through the existing air holes:
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nice, how did you do the internal wiring?

Front mudguard need adjusting a little more anti-clockwise to cover the back more but otherwise very good.

Needs to get Krull to do his dynamo wiring!

nice, how did you do the internal wiring?

I used something that is called spring wire in German. That is a quite stiff wire. Formed a hook in each end, entered from both sides and tried to catch one end with the other end. Using the right tool it's easier than it seems.
The first time I tried it with a wire strand of a brake cable. That needed some patience ;-)

I know it's been posted on the forum before, but I haven't seem all the pictures with descriptions before, so....

http://www.renehersebicycles.com/650b%20Herse.htm

Love the lightswitch on the stem, great idea.

me too. Lovely little touch.

Lack of mudguards, but...

I'd ride the shit out of this all summer long.

Town bars, 11 speed Alfine... Just needs bigger tyres and a bottle cage.

Add downtube shifter and modern 8x1 groupset and bingo, much much lighter and more direct.

This is one of my favourite internet bikes.

Add downtube shifter and modern 8x1 groupset and bingo, much much lighter and more direct.

After some deliberation, I agree. Alfine would suit something with relaxed angles, fat tyres and guards. This is a nippy bike with skinny tyres, the Alfine has no place on it.

^^ why are the panniers on the front?

^ Maybe rear heal clearances?

Add mtb trigger shifter or a converted bar end shifter and modern 9x1 or 10x1 groupset and bingo, much much lighter and more direct.

ftfy

I always wanted to do this with a SRAM setup, a paul thumbie, 1" carbon threadless forks, and carbon Easton risers. Prob also slightly wider rims and 25/28c tyres.

Bar end shifter = heavier.

If you worry about weight don't start with a steel frame+ forks.

It's never gonna be a weight weenier, but it can be light either way.

Look at this picture:

Now imagine how you'll be sitting on that. Then think about reaching down for the dt shifter.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but pulling up to and away from traffic lights which one would you rather do?

In any event it's a lovely bike and I want one.

#sillyarguments

and then imagine the crunching in your alfine because you didn't hit the gear exactly.

Now imagine how you'll be sitting on that. Then think about reaching down for the dt shifter.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but pulling up to and away from traffic lights which one would you rather do?

Are you saying it's more an issue on those kind of set-up than in the Tour de France?

It isn't hard if you don't treat it like a brifter/bar end shifter.

Aghhhh... ok I'll bite!

Yes. I am saying it's harder. When you're already in an aggressive forward position reaching down is easier.

In any event reaching down to change gear is silly.

TBH I was musing to myself how great bar end shifters were the other day... and then I had a quick spin on my road bike this weekend and realised that whatever bullshit Rivendell et al try and sling shifting without having to move your hands from their natural grip position is amazing and smashes every other option.

how many times in the tdf do you pull away from traffic lights.

also, what hugo said (refresh).

...whatever bullshit Rivendell et al try and sling shifting without having to move your hands from their natural grip position is amazing and smashes every other option.

Whilst rivendell bikes are another league of awesome, I massively agree

Switching to bar-ends from DTs was a revelation - I expect brifters are even better.

TBH I have no idea why anybody would ever use DT shifters except for the minuscule weight advantage which is probably less than 100g, or aesthetics.