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i got the sealskinz winter cycling gloves today
not entirely sure about them, warm and dry but the lining slips around against the outer when on the hoods. so a bit like dammit, the problem only became apparent when i actually used them. it just feels a little disconcerting having your hands slide around when they are meant to be gripping. perhaps i will learn to adapt
am using them on the MTB tomorrow, so may have an idea if they are better suited to offroad applications