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You're an idiot. Go back to engineering school and work out the load path before commenting further. The case of the seatstays as a beam loaded with brake reaction (whether transferred from a centre bolt via a brake bridge, or directly into the cantilever/V-brake bosses) near the middle and supported at the ends by the seat lug and dropouts is one of the simplest stress calculations on a bicycle. If you can't cope with that one, god help us if you ever choose to weigh in with your ill-informed opinion on what happens to the down tube when you apply the front brake while turning.

I'm sure you're absolutely right but this came across as really unpleasant and unnecessarily harsh, there are definitely more constructive ways you could have shared your knowledge.

a diagram would be helpful

Or a flow chart

Maybe a pamphlet or PDF containing all of the above.

I'm sure you're absolutely right but this came across as really unpleasant and unnecessarily harsh, there are definitely more constructive ways you could have shared your knowledge.

thanks for quoting, wouldnt see otherwise

I love it how tester is raging on a sunday afternoon and producing more and more paragraphs in poor attempt to prove his incorrect point
and* I* am an idiot:)

I'm sure you're absolutely right but this came across as really unpleasant and unnecessarily harsh, there are definitely more constructive ways you could have shared your knowledge.

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I'm sure you're absolutely right but this came across as really unpleasant and unnecessarily harsh, there are definitely more constructive ways you could have shared your knowledge.

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Has this bike been here yet?

Sorry if reep....

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nice combination!

she`s gorgeous!!!

nice niceeeee

nice combination!

she`s gorgeous!!!

shit sale thread coming soon?

i know it's a re, but a great one

Does it look like the owner somehow removed the hood and applied in some sort of thin covering on it?

Why are some seatposts bent?.I'm sorry,just don't get it.

to provide the essential layback that all posts (aside from inline posts) will have up near the clamp area.

I'm sure you're absolutely right but this came across as really unpleasant and unnecessarily harsh, there are definitely more constructive ways you could have shared your knowledge.

Repost.

Just take the parts that interest you from what you read and ignore the rest, it's probably easier than asking somebody to conduct themselves differently.

Precisely, some saddle have very little room on the rail, some have a lots.

Would like to know how much setback that seatpost have actually, I needed at least 40mm setback.

Repost.

Just take the parts that interest you from what you read and ignore the rest, it's probably easier than asking somebody to conduct themselves differently.

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I'm glad for testers 'info' posts, even though they can be sometimes classed as 'overly passionate' they always seem to be correct and helpful. I personally prefer to read a comment or advice with correct info rather than a dumb idea spewed out by someone with no knowledge on the subject.

to provide the essential layback

Why is layback essential? Because frame builders make the seat tube too steep. Why is the seat tube too steep? Because that allows for short chainstays. Why do chainstays have to be short? Well, in the olden days, thin steel chainstays needed all the help they could get to provide adequate stiffness especially during out-of-the-saddle sprints where highly asymmetric loads are applied to the rear triangle. We suffered from the poor comfort and handling of these short wheelbase machines because either a: we were on a track where it didn't matter or b: the trade off was considered (rightly or wrongly) acceptable.

Now, with the sudden realisation that you're allowed to make the chainstays from something meatier than ¾" tapering to ½" thin walled steel tubes, it's hard to see why the fashion for short chainstays persists.

It's really annoying having to find a massive layback seatpost for the girlfriend's new bicycle because the smaller the frame, the steeper the seat tube.

40mm layback anyone?

^^ So would something like a 72.5 or 72 deg ST be more in keeping with modern materials?
Have come across this before in a interview with frame builder (from Baum I think), and does make a lot of sense.
I'd seriously love to have the time and money to try frame building and start experimenting with different geometries, absolutely fascinates me.

^IIRC the Nitto S83 had loads of setback, not cheap mind.

Nitto S84, Velo Orange Grand Cru has 30mm+, there's a Thorn seatpost which has 40mm I think. Or you could get one of these babies.

I had the Velo Orange one, even with that, I still need to get 10mm more setback due to the narrow rail option of the Brooks saddle.

The adaptor sound like a solution, will look into that claim 40mm Thorn seatpost first, thank.

SJS are out of stock at the moment but may be able to get one.