Degreaser

Lots of household cleaning products contain salt. Use them at your peril.

I use white spirit, although it's a pain to store if you don't have a garden.

Baby wipes shift fucking anything. Truth.

Screwfix has a 5ltr tub of degreaser for about £10 I'm gunna give that a shot 10x cheaper than Muc off.

Yep, that's the big difference between muc off and washing up liquid. Washing up liquid will make your bike go rusty.

Lots of household cleaning products contain salt. Use them at your peril.

I use white spirit, although it's a pain to store if you don't have a garden.

Why?

I use white spirit, although it's a pain to store if you don't have a garden.

Baby wipes shift fucking anything. Truth.

It's true. You'd wonder whether it's OK to use them on an actual baby.

Oh and http://www.green-oil.net/shop.html by the way. I use the degreaser and it seems to work, although I'm sure some degreasing professional will be along to say otherwise.

Which cleans better?

Diesel or Petrol?

Both are equally good in practice, although on paper, petrol should be the better of the two.

Diesel is however less flammable, less volatile (evaporates less) and when it does catch light, diesel is a lot less aggressive than petrol, so worst comes to worse, you'd be able to handle it, unlike petrol which tends to explode, especially if there is a lot it as vapor in the air
for those reasons, diesel is by far much safer.

Safer still is paraffin but it's quite a bit more expensive and harder to come by.

Both petrol and diesel are carcinogenic, which is why you should use gloves.

I'd stick with clit bang or muck off (lighter fluid for the chain). I always find there is a petrol dripping into hubs / bearings and flushing the grease out. White spirit can leave a tacky residue on some surfaces so I wouldn't use that.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4x5L--Citrus-degreaser---Eco-friendly---Biodegradable_W0QQitemZ330407729164QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=4a7d1fba1280a0aad5304c50ffde9f3e

Why?

Because you have a jamjar full of dirty white spirit after you've used it for cleaning, which stinks and is messy. Also, when you're done you can't pour white spirit down drains. If you have some you want rid of, just put it in an open container on a sunny day and it will evaporate. You need somewhere outdoors to do that though.

errr, don't use diesel as it will wreck the rubber on your tyres with generally unsavoury consequences. Put a strip of inner tube in a jar of diesel and see what it does to rubber.
Chain degreaser: Gunk, inside Park Tools Chain Scrubber tool.

el duke's degreaser.
if you can find it.
the very best.

I use white spirit/liquid parrafin or kerosene. Keep it in a jar that i dunk the chain in.

Although use two jars as all the shit that comes out of the chain eventually settles on the bottom and you can pour off to reuse the fluid. I've used the same 500ml for at least 25 chain cleans and various other degreasing bits. works the best and it evaporates off the chain leaving it residue free for re-lubing.

Green Oil Clean Chain- a bit expensive, but a little goes a long way.

It's true. You'd wonder whether it's OK to use them on an actual baby.

Mine doesn't seem to have gone rusty or anything from using them. :-)

Does anyone know where I can buy less than a 4L can of parafin in South London? I only want enough to soak my chain and a gallon sounds like overkill.

syphon some diesel out of a friends car?

I'm not sure we would continue to be friends if I did that. Worse still, I don't think I have any friends with diesels....dang polluters.