Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

I use on a regular basis "OI! OI!" and "Carfeul Now!" as a warning

I usually say 'Good morning' or 'good afternoon' - politely if there's someone wandering around on a towpath, or in the style of Brian Blessed if used as a warning.

I once advised a stepping-out pedestrian that they 'wouldn't step out in front of a car', but the joke was on me when they retorted 'yes I would'.

I sometimes call out "Mind out!" or "Turning left!" (as applicable) if people are about to cross without looking, but my voice seems to be very un-noticeable, despite being able to project to the back of a lecture hall, people 3 metres away on the street rarely notice. I have often come to a stop a few feet from people who remain oblivious (which is why I tend to slow/stop rather than assume I can make myself noticed).
I think I will start using "Oi oi!" though, if only for my own amusement.

Was this during the 1980s by any chance?

No, it was in the modern era which made it 1980 times worse :(

In that case I think you can justify a new bike. Guilt free spending.

Friday morning, walworth road, burgundy blazer, white shoulderbag with umbrella tied to it, classic dark red tourer with risers, between 14 and 20 years old, cuban heels, grinned stupidly at me as you wobbled across the road into oncoming traffic, jumped every set of lights, if you pull out again without looking I won't shout a warning I will just break your nose.

I sometimes call out "Mind out!" or "Turning left!" (as applicable) if people are about to cross without looking, but my voice seems to be very un-noticeable, despite being able to project to the back of a lecture hall, people 3 metres away on the street rarely notice. I have often come to a stop a few feet from people who remain oblivious (which is why I tend to slow/stop rather than assume I can make myself noticed).
I think I will start using "Oi oi!" though, if only for my own amusement.

I mainly rely on my bell now. It sings with great resonance, so it's not like I'm ting-ting-tinging in an irritating way.

Once in a blue moon, if I can tell the bell's been ineffective, I'll back it up with a shout of "turning!" or whatever, but I avoid all this "oi!' stuff now. I used to do it, in what I assumed was a pleasant and mellow fashion. Then I experimented with an old camcorder gaffa taped to my bars (this was the mid 90s or something) to see what happened on some of my commutes. Whenever I calmly and mellowly shouted 'oi!' or 'look out!' or something, it sounded incredibly aggressive. I put this down to the nature of commuting - you're exerting yourself, and concentrating madly, and you want to make sure you're heard.

So the tinging device is where my experimentation finished: bell end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2mGDUULIkQ

this morning there was a bit more traffic than usual going up OKR (probably due to the accident outside Tesco, car on traffic island, not sure what happened but didn't look too bad) and a load of cyclists and motorbikes were unable to get to the front at the lights just before tesco. a cyclist on a hybrid approaches, sees the jam (not even a big one, I just had to wait 2 minutes to go though the lights), says loudly 'fuck sake!' and proceeds to overtake all the waiting traffic by going up the opposite carriageway. This might make it me a bad person, but I really wanted him to meet some oncoming traffic then (not get run over though)
sorry for the long post, but it pisses me off when cyclists think they just can't wait in a queue.

Sarcasm recognition failure.

He does not need the time to explain how wet weather affects his braking, just needs to moderate his riding accordingly, or get a bike with disc brakes that will brake more consistently in wet or dry conditions.

But she's always in a hurrrrrrrryyyyyyyy because she's always leaving slightly too late to ride at a leisurely pace and because she stops at red lights feels the need to race. Yes. I know. I've gorralot to learn :-(

I forgot to post yesterday as the mornings events made me late and I was posting elsewhere on here, but......

I was riding through Dalston Junction and heading toward City Road on my usual route, when a few cyclists badly filtered from the right, it happens every morning, and I've gone beyond calling out, just dealing with the melee and getting on with my journey.
Anyway, just past the Scolt Head, a lady on a Pashley type bike took a left turn a bit quick, hit a patch of greasy wet leaves and landed with a rather ungraceful bump. The bad cyclist was the guy on a Specialized fuckbrid that decided said Ladies hand was part of the road, you tutting Sir was derisory at a pretty shitty time. You saw the incident, so you should either have stopped, or, made a wide line away from her.
To the Van driver you nearly rode into the back of while you looked back and laughed, yeah, he was right Sir, you and your Fuckbrid are utter cuntdome, it's almost a shame you missed the van.

Said Lady dropped me a text this morning, and has a fractured wrist, and won't be riding for a while. Shame that some people just have'nt the time or decency to stop and take a moment to someone who's had an off.

this morning there was a bit more traffic than usual going up OKR (probably due to the accident outside Tesco, car on traffic island, not sure what happened but didn't look too bad) and a load of cyclists and motorbikes were unable to get to the front at the lights just before tesco. a cyclist on a hybrid approaches, sees the jam (not even a big one, I just had to wait 2 minutes to go though the lights), says loudly 'fuck sake!' and proceeds to overtake all the waiting traffic by going up the opposite carriageway. This might make it me a bad person, but I really wanted him to meet some oncoming traffic then (not get run over though)
sorry for the long post, but it pisses me off when cyclists think they just can't wait in a queue.

Not sure why this is a problem, assuming there's no reservation between the carriageways?

EDIT: Are you saying he went through the lights on the wrong side?

Sorry just to clarify, the guy on the Specialized (Sirrus?) rode over her hand then laughed at her?

Did that cause the broken wrist?

If so, I'd issue a description of the guy to the police and all local commuters so they can stop him if they see him. Preferably by kicking the cunt off his bike and then ensuring that he is incapable of riding off by some means of either damage to his bike or his hands. Or face. Or balls.

^This.

Sorry, should have been more specific. Her fall was to the left, he rode over her right, that was'nt damaged at all. Then he rode away laughing. The way he laughed gaulled me, and I was only a spectator as this happened.

Yes, his faceballs should be comitted to damage, and his bike inserted into orrafice only surgeons know about. Not entirely sure wether to say anything if/when I next see him, an evident lack of social conscience would suggest any interaction would only add to his shitsacking failure as a human being.

On the plus side, it's good to know said Lady got treated quickly, and the Lady living across the road was happy to have the bike locked overnight. Personally, I'm just glad I stopped, and if I were to have such a fall that someone might stop and help as opposed to laugh.

wow. really? what an utter cunt. i want to believe something awful will happen to him. like he crushes his wanking hand so badly it can't be saved and gets amputated thus destroying his ego and making the roads safer.

Her fall was to the left, he rode over her right, that was'nt damaged at all.

Sorry just to clarify did he actually ride over her hand?

From what I saw, albeit 30 yards away yes. When I stopped, she had grimey 'tyre' marks on the back of her hand, so I'd say yes.

That is an accurate representation of a lot of the people who come out here, trust me.

As for bike bells, well... usually people ride on the sidewalk at almost walking pace and ring them arrogantly until people get out of the way. School kids also ride on the sidewalk but do so at a dangerous speed and ring them non-stop like a siren.

Japanese cycling is a complete mess and it's amazing there aren't more accidents.

Do you think? I used to commute by bike from Kichijoji to Shibuya every day and thought that by and large traffic responded much better to cyclists than in London. Everybody, even taxi drivers, seemed more aware and dare I say concerned about the presence of cyclists... the riding on the pavement thing is entirely different I grant you.

What a cunt.

Reminds me: About a year ago, I was riding down Rosebery avenue and some guy on a beat up MTB nearly rode into/over a old lady who was crossing the zebra near the Wilmington Pub. Said pedestrian shouted something like "Can you see me here?" after the MTB rider. He slowed down, turned around and spat, a big gobby spit, in that "this is what I think of you" sort of way. Left me feeling like everyone who saw it had been assaulted. Maybe I am sensitive, but I was left thinking about it all morning.

Again, a cunt.

Did he realise he'd run over her hand? I can't imagine it is something you'd do without noticing.

Laughing at someone coming a cropper is bad enough, but has a "you've been framed" slapstick thing that, while objectionable, is understandable. Riding over someone and laughing is pure psychopathic behaviour.

From what I saw, albeit 30 yards away yes. When I stopped, she had grimey 'tyre' marks on the back of her hand, so I'd say yes.

Wow.

What a disgusting human being.

I suggest organising a skidding competition over this guys hands. And face. And balls.

Did he realise he'd run over her hand? I can't imagine it is something you'd do without noticing.

Laughing at someone coming a cropper is bad enough, but has a "you've been framed" slapstick thing that, while objectionable, is understandable. Riding over someone and laughing is pure psychopathic behaviour.

Hence my reservations in calling him out should I see him again...... though........

Do you think? I used to commute by bike from Kichijoji to Shibuya every day and thought that by and large traffic responded much better to cyclists than in London. Everybody, even taxi drivers, seemed more aware and dare I say concerned about the presence of cyclists... the riding on the pavement thing is entirely different I grant you.

And that's the problem - most people ride on the sidewalk and those who do ride on the road generally ('proper cyclists' aside) have no idea what to do.

The motorists are, by and large, pretty good. The bike users are not.

Sorry, should have been more specific. Her fall was to the left, he rode over her right, that was'nt damaged at all. Then he rode away laughing. The way he laughed gaulled me, and I was only a spectator as this happened.

Yes, his faceballs should be comitted to damage, and his bike inserted into orrafice only surgeons know about. Not entirely sure wether to say anything if/when I next see him, an evident lack of social conscience would suggest any interaction would only add to his shitsacking failure as a human being.

On the plus side, it's good to know said Lady got treated quickly, and the Lady living across the road was happy to have the bike locked overnight. Personally, I'm just glad I stopped, and if I were to have such a fall that someone might stop and help as opposed to laugh.

Christ this can be a depressing thread sometimes.

I really hope that woman hasn't been put off cycling. Just as in the rest of life there are arseholes everywhere. But you both encountered a real low life.

BTW the bloke on a racing bike who overtook me yesterday in Prebend St, then narrowly avoided a scissor like collision with not one but two cabs - if you're here - yeah... you won Big Balls. I bet you went straight to the pub and had a stiff one/four. You ride like a prick and you're extremely lucky to be here.

Used tap in the van horn to stop a rider ahead of me mid rlj who'd have got taken out from the right if they rolled thru.

Got a pissed off stare once they stopped, and they refused to ride on green until I'd passed by.

Mixed feelings as stopped a dick move, but made an enemy...