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@Clever_Pun
1st is a bit close to the flyover but I've not really gone through there
the location of the 2nd one, is pretty damned piss poor, avoid (I see tallchris has let you know this)
Might I suggest trying the other side of east croydon station, sandilands, lebanon road and down towards Addiscombe, blackhorse etc
don't do towards Addington village....