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  • I can understand why the term 'ladies', as used in the 19th century and earlier, would render this jersey undesirable (I expect we all can!) but for me at least, the word used in this context has quite positive connotations and doesn't advocate Victorian conventions or ideals of femininity at all.

    Either way, I'm sad you don't want a jersey :)

    I agree with Alex too. Words and symbols do evolve and change meaning over time (ie: the swasika actually means "to be good" and yet now will forever be associated with the hate of the Nazi regime) and I think that that has happened to the term 'ladies,' in that it has quite positive connotations and doesn't advocate Victorian conventions or ideals of femininity at all

    I think it's too bad that the term still holds such negative connotations for both of you (kat and saorise).

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