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• #452
I recently purchased a cross bike with an FSA K- Force crankset (crankset probably 5 years old). From my knowledge it is an integrated external bottom bracket - and my issue is that the left crank has a couple of mm play ("horisontal and vertical") on the spindle.
I have removed the crank a couple of times and replaced - banged with a mallet to ensure that the crank was all the way on when tightening - but cant seem to get it snug. The splines on the bb (from the other crank) look fine - and the crank splines seem ok.Any suggestions on how I can get this snug? Feels really weird - and I dont want to ruin what are otherwise nice cranks in good shape.
Cheers!
in case anyone cares - and has a similar issue - I found the diagram online of this crankset and realised I was missing a crush washer. Found them online for like 2 euro - problem solved - nice tight fit on the cranks. Really happy I solved it as I didnt want to buy new cranks for this ride.
cheers
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• #453
I've been out of the game for 30 years & am trying to fix up my bikes that have been stored in the gargae for years. I'm trying to find what Cranks are compatible with a Super record bottom bracket bearing from about 1980.
I bought the bearing new & it is hardly used, but I have an SR crankset on it. I am now wanting to get a used Campagnolo chainset for it. Obviously nouvo record & SUper record & possibly Gran sport will fit. But I are any of the more recent chainsets compatible ?? Any advice would be appreciated.
regards
Rob
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• #454
Any suggestions on a suitable bb for stronglight track 2000 cranks to a suzie pro max hub to get a decent chain line?
Thanks
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• #455
Isn't the promax a standard 42mm chainline? If so 107 jis should work a treat. Just use the stronglight 2000 bb.
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• #456
I've got a Sugino - CBB 103 Bottom Bracket on my Leader 725 with Sugino - RD2 Messenger Crank Set but its not in line with my rear cog. Do I need to get a new BB? Maybe 107 or 110mm?
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• #457
Finally found a use for a SRAM Red crankset I got a bargain on a couple years ago and solved a Goldtec chainline headache.
SRAM Red (small ring on outer) + GXP + Goldtec + EAI 3/32 = 46.5mm = welpeur
Format: Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
Campagnolo:
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Royce + EAI = kowalski
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record 111mm (80's) + Phil + Phil = tristoo
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Hub + Phil Cog = Sparky's Fuji
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Athena + Phils (Hub and cog) (+ Fizik bar tape) = Jonny
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Campag Pista = Platini
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record + Royce + eai = briankwan
Campagnolo Pista '81 + Campag 109 + Record LF hubs+ Phil cog = Skully
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Ambrosio + Phil Wood = Sano
Campagnolo Pista + Specialities TA + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = VelocityBoy
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Araya + Phil Wood = 50/14
Campagnolo PIsta + Campag Veloce 111mm + System-EX + Condor = hladik
Campagnolo Pista + Veloce 111mm + Surly + Miche = EEI
Campag Record Pista - Campag Centaur 111mm - Campag Record Pista - Phil Wood - the-smiling-buddha
Campag Record Pista + Record pista + Record Pista + Dura ace = gizmond
Campag Record Pista + Token tiramic 111mm + Ambrosio + Phil Wood + VO sewn-on elkhide= Smallfurry (BB asymmetric, buggerit)
Campag Record Pista + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5 + Phil Wood + EAI = Jonesy
Campag Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Dura Ace Hb7600 + Dura Ace = Cornelius Blackfoot
Campagnolo Record Pista+Campagnolo Centaur 111mm+Miche Primato+Condor CNC=Cosmonaut
Campagnolo Record Pista+Stronglight 110 ISO+Campag Record Road screw on with large spacer swapped from DS to NDS+Trialtech Sport=Mitre_Tester
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Royce + On-One (& others) = BMMF
Campagnolo Record + miche 111mm + Mack + Phil Wood = drøn
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Campag Record Pista + EAI = entwidomela
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Campag Record Pista + Tranzmission = upstart
Campag Super Record Pista + Record Pista + Dura Ace 7600 HF + Condor = M-X
Campagnolo Strada + Campag Veloce 111m + Phil Wood + Surly = roger
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campagnolo Centaur 111mm + Formula + Phil Wood = arantrek
Campag Record Pista +Campag Centuar 111m + On One + Condor = Sainsburys Ed
Campag C Record Pista + Campag Veloce 115mm (needed, tight Q-factor and fat stays, bit out but still works) + Phil + Phil = maxcrowe
Campagnolo Super Record + Campagnolo Veloce 115mm + Miche Primato + EAI = crispin_glover
Campagnolo Record Double + Tifosi ISO English 102mm + 120mm Suzue Promax = chriscofferson
Campagnolo chorus road double with velosolo ring inside the spider + 102mm campag chorus BB + halo aerotrack + EAI = JordanCarroll (0.5mm out i guess makes no difference)Dotek:
Dotek cheapy + Campag Mirage + Formula + Dura-Ace = fc9k
Dotek FG-PRO6-170 + BBUN26 68x113mm + OnOne small flange double fixed hub + Miche1/8sprocket = xroads (42mm chainline with chainring on inner side of spider, chainguard on outer side)Dura-Ace:
Dura Ace 7600 + TA Axix Light + Gran Compe + Condor = photoben
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = hassanr
Dura-Ace 7600 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Surly = Dayno
Dura-Ace + UN72/110mm + Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Object
Dura-Ace + UN53/107mm + Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Dura-Ace + UN54/107mm + Dura Ace + Phil = Shinscar
Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace BB-7610 + Dura-Ace 7600 + EAI = flickwg
Dura-Ace 7600 + UN54/107mm + Novatec + some shit = Ant
Dura-Ace 7600 + UN54/107mm + BLB hub + EAI - ummar01
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 (109.5) + Dura Ace HB7600 + Dura Ace 1/8 = RPM dura-fuckin-ace.
Dura-Ace all the way baby... = dovoneil
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 + Dura Ace HB7600 + EAI = town
Dura-Ace Old school 151 + UN54+ Sys Ex + On One= Eyebrows perfect (dangermouse)
Dura-Ace + UN54 110 + Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace = Charco
Dura-Ace + Stronglight JP400 + Phil + Andel = euan
Dura-Ace 7710 + Sugino 75 chainring + Dura-Ace 7700 109.5mm BB + Dura-Ace 7600 hub + Sugino Sprocket = Dammit
Dura Ace 7710 + Shimano 105 109.5mm + suzue pro max + condor = liquidsky59
Dura Ace 7600 + Campag Veloce 115.5 + Level (45mm chainline) = M-X
Dura Ace 7600 + Dura Ace 7610 (109mm) + Royce + EAI = wools
Dura Ace 7600 + Campagnolo Pista 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = maxcrowe
Dura Ace 7402 (road, machined off) + Miche Pista + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = jetskiMiche:
Miche 70's road double + Shit JIS 107mm + Formula + EAI = dbr (+0.2mm)
Miche Primato + Campagnolo 111mm + Miche hub + EAI = Well, is it.
Miche + Miche +Miche + Andel + Miche = fixedfreak (max)
Miche + Campag Record 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Miche + campag centaur 111mm + formula + surly (~fred)
Miche + Miche + Velosteel coaster = gizmond
Miche + Campag Record 109mm + Phil + Phil = gizmond
Miche + Miche + Navigator Pista + EAI = gizmond also
Miche + Sugino + Miche + EAI = Shinscar (surly)
Miche Primato Pista + Shimano UN54/110mm + Formula + Dura Ace = CHUG_IT
Miche Primato Pista + Miche 107mm + On-One + EAI = ummar01
Miche Primato Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Formula + EAI = ummar01
Miche (Condor-branded) + Miche 107mm (cups adjusted 2mm towards drivechain) + Goldtec + EAI 1/8" = eeehhhh {46mm chainline}
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Goldtec + Condor = Buddha Fingaz
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Miche + Miche = Buddha Fingaz
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Condor(IRO) + Surly = edscoble
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche = Hovis Brown
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche Pista = 50/14
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI = hamster
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Mavic 520 Piste + Roselli = entwidomela
Miche Primato Advanced + Campagnolo Veloce 111mm + Miche + Surly(+ 1mm spacer) = oge
Miche Primato Advanced + Kinex 107mm ISO + Gran Compe + EAI + Token + Dura Ace = Apolloxl
Miche Advanced + Miche + Gran Compe + DA = VED
Miche Advanced + Miche + phil wood + DA = VED
Miche Primato Advanced + miche 107 + Halo + EAI = philxthomas
Miche Advanced + Miche + Dia Compe Grand Compe + EAI = gizmond
Miche Advanced + Campagnolo Athena adjustable 111mm + Dia Compe Gran Compe + Miche Primato = a|s (although my driveside chainstay is out of whack by 5mm or so)
Miche Primato Advanced + fyxomantosis chainring 49t + royce titanium + phil wood 16t + fizik = germanmarc
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + system ex + Andel = sorethroat
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + zenith/formula/systemex + velo solo = velo libre
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano Un54 + GoldTec + EAI = Clockwork_Killa
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107 + Planet X Pista + Dura Ace = OSR
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107 + Miche + Velosolo = Robin Goodfellows
Miche Primato Advanced (TA Specialites C'ring) + Miche 107 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Sebinho9Stronglight:
Format: Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
Stronglight 49D w/52t chainring + Suntour bb + Charge hub + SystemEx 17t cog = apolloxl
Stronglight + UN53/107mm + Sys-X + Formula= MA3K
Stronglight + Shimano UN73/110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Stronglight + Stronglight + SystemEx + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Stronglight + UN72/107mm + Miche + EAI = Richard Cheese (all 3/32)
Stronglight + Shitmano UN54/118mm + Goldtec + Surly/EAI (on 130mm dropouts for 50mm chainline, Pomino, Genesis singlespeed etc..)= RPM
Stronglight + Sugino / 103mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" = Superprecise
Stronglight ST1000 + UN54/107mm + SystemEx + EAI = ummar01
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" (42mm chainline) = Spiny
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Goldtec + Condor = lightindustrialunit
Stronglight 49a (vintage) + 49t Williams chainring (vintage) + VP Components BV-55P 127.5mm + Surly new + surly 19t = mc_nebulaSugino 75:
Sugino 75 + Miche + Condor (non Goldtec) + Dura Ace = brett
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = d.mac ( if it ever comes back from Condor....)
Sugino 75 + Miche + Campag + DA = gizmond
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Wapping Warrior
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood 108mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = exedanni
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Phil + EAI Superstar = Object
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Goldtech + Phil Wood = Dancing James
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = Muleboy
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = dogsballs
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI= 31t®um
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = Broker
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= adoubletap + fred
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= biles
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = maxcrowe
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Buddha Fingaz
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + EAI = mattty
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Mavic Ellipse + EAI = mattty
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Phil Wood + EAI = jaygee
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Phil Wood + EAI = Rascal
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Formula + Dura Ace = TooTallTim
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + MACK + EAI = 31t®um
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + Dura-ace= Build
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Surly = Dannoleeed
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Formula + Dura Ace = Robin Goodfellows
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino 75 + Shimano + Condor Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Nimhbus
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Campagnolo C.Record + Sugino Gigas = moose76
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace (109mm) + Phil Wood + EAI regular (euro asia imports) = moose76
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = shootthebreeze
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = works
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + EAI Superstar = jaygee
Sugino 75 + Royce 103mm JIS + Royce + EAI Superstar = welpeur
Sugino 75 + Stronglight + Phil Wood + Dura Ace (+ cut down odyssey grips) = jonny
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Dura Ace + EAI = mikec
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = jon_a
Sugino 75 + miche 107mm + miche primato + crap 3/32 = Gareth_lindsay
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Mavic Ellipse + Dura Ace = tick.tick.tick
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = dasmiller
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood 110.5 ISO + Level + Level 1/8th Cog = kiptinui (proper smooth)
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) +Gran Compe + EAI = MatP
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + Royce (120mm) + EAI = daimonic
Sugino 75 + Gipiemme Pista + Formula + Surly = SumoSugino Messenger/RD:
Sugino RD2 Messenger + RPM 103mm JIS + Aerospoke + Miche 15T = Vince
Sugino RD2 Messenger + RPM 103mm JIS + Formula (Varno Built) + Miche 15T= Vince
Sugino Messenger + Sugino 103mm + Phil Wood + EAI = mattty
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood = chris crash
Sugino Messenger + Shimano + Ambrosio + Condor = Shinscar (clown)
Sugino Messenger + Sugino/103mm + Goldtec + DA = VED (perfect)
Sugino Messenger + Sugino + Hope track + EAI = Aleksi
Sugino Messenger + Shimano + Halo + Shimano dura ace = IvandaterribleSugino Super Mighty + Sugino 109 + Dura Ace + Phil Wood = Dayno
Sugino RD + Sugino + Ambrosio + Miche = asm } both are pretty much spot on
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Sys-X + Dura Ace = MA3K
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Dura Ace/Andel = ChrisNW {44 front, 42 rear}
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Halo + Halo = Hotwls
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + OnOne = -=Mike=-
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Surly O.L.D. + Surly/Miche/Dicta = ShannonBall
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + Dura Ace = Pifko
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Sys Ex + Miche = Eightball69
Sugino RD + UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI= hamster
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Formula track hub +Miche sprocket (Miche lockring will no fit this hub) = gtvlusso
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Gran Compe + Token/Andel = Balki
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Gran Compe + Velo Solo = Rascal
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Phil Wood + EAI = Rascal
Sugino RD (On inside ring) + Sugino/103mm+ Formula + Surly = entwidomela
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + Andel = welpeur
Sugino RD (on inside ring) + Shimano UN54 107mm + Goldtec + Condor = Buddha Fingaz
Sugino RD + Shimano UN54 107mm + Formula + Shimano Freewheel (and 2.5mm behind freewheelspacers) = ummar01Misc.:
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Dura-Ace Track 7710 + Miche 16T = Vince
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Formula + EAI = Jaimes
Andel + Tange 110.5 + Formula + Surly = Numeryk
Andel/BLB + Sugino 103mm + zenith/formula + surly = dinosaur
Andel + Shimano UN54 + phil woods + andel = liquidsky59
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Mack lowflange ss = thiscocks
Campagnolo Double + Shimano + Formula + DA = Tobyprice
Campagnolo Record time trial + FAG Nadax + SJS + Beans Cycles = BlueQuinn
Campagnolo road double (Croce D'Aune) + 111mm ACH + Goldtec + Miche or On One or Surly or EAI 3/32nd = AlexB
Campagnolo road double (Chorus) with chainring inside spider + 107mm Miche Primato (slight offset to NDS) + Halo + BLB or Dura-Ace (frankenstein transmission, but perfect chainline) = upstart
Campagnolo Veloce Double + Campag Veloce + SystemEx = Hovis Brown
Campagnolo Veloce Triple + Campag Veloce + Goldtec + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Campag Veloce UT+Record UT+Mavic Ellipse+Phil Wood/EAI Gold Medal=Mitre_Tester
FSA Carbon Track Pro + FSA Platinum Pro BB + Mack Double Fixed Track Hub + DA Track Cog + KMC Superlight Chain = Dov
FSA Carbon Track Pro (new style) + FSA BB + profile + Miche pro = fred
FSA Vero + 110mm cheapo cartridge + Dura-Ace/SurlyFixer/Shimano LX = N3lson
FSA Vero + Shimano UN54 110mm + System EX + On-One = Buddha Fingaz
FSA Vero+Shimano UN54+Miche Pistard+Deda=east end images
FSA Vero+Gebhardt 1/8 CR+Sugino 103 BB+Formula Hub+Condor Cog = hoonz
FSA Vero + Shimano UN54 107mm + Goldtec + Miche = krakow
FSA Vigorelli + ISIS BB of indeterminate width + Phil + Condor = hippynice
FSA Vigorelli + FSA ISIS BB 108mm + Surly + BLB = EEI
Gipiemme Pista + Campag 111mm + Mavic + Dura-Ace (also Goldtec + Miche) = ondine
Gusset Pygmy 853 (gusset chainwheel) + Gusset Euro bb (145mm spindle) + Goldtec + EAI = hassanr
IRD Defiant + Shimano UN54 110mm + Formula + Andel = OSR
IRD (Interlock Racing) Defiant + Shimano UN54 107mm + Dia Compe Gran + EAI = Weslito (Use a 107mm JIS for 42mm chainline, not 110mm as IRD advise)
Lasco Chainset + Tange 103mm + SJSc hub + Dicta Threaded = Branwen
Mavic Fluted Road Double (Inner Ring Lip Filed Off) + Campagnolo Chorus 102mm BB + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Pistoffski
Middleburn RS1+ Shimano XT 68 113mm + White Bros Eno + Surly/ Miche = tommid
Mighty (£15 ebay) + Shimano un54 122.5mm + sjsc hub+ sjsc cog = ile
Nervar + Tange 115mm + Zenith + Surly (3/32" chain) = gwEm
Ofmega 49t + Campag + Miche + DA = Tobyprice
Ofmega 52 tooth + Shimano/110mm Italian thrd + Formula + Surly = P!MP(somehow it works)
Ofmega mistral(TA chainring) + token + goldtec + eai/Roselli = Clockwork_killa
Pake + UN54 107mm + SJS/Formula + Miche = Frankie_j
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = yorkiefix
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + paul + phil = flickwg, nosferatu BIG UP PAUL COMP
Paul + Phil Wood 110.5mm + Phil Wood + Dura Ace = richoking
Paul Comp + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5mm + Paul Comp + Surly = Jonesy
Profil Race Cranks with Gusset Chainring, Profile Euro BB, Philwood, Philwood = Object
Profile Race Cranks + Profile Imperial Chainring + Profile Euro BB + Profile Ti Mini Mag spindle + Phil Wood Kissoff + Surly = Schwarz
RPM + Shimano UN54/110mm + Condor (non-Goldtec) + Condor = Brett
Raceface Decadence + Raceface Cadence X-Type + Formula + Token = Kinsella
Schwinn Stingray + FSA 110mm JIS + Quando flip flop hub + dura ace cog 1/8 = ile
Shimano 600 + UN54/110mm+ Suzue SIL-SP track hub + Miche 1/8 sprocket. =DFP
Shimano 600 + UN54/110mm + Goldtec 126mm track hub + 3/32 EAI = Prime heretic
Shimano 600 Road Double + Shimano 107mm + System Ex + a cog (possibly) = hippy TI Raleigh
Shimano 600 road double(gebhardt chainring) + Shimano 107mm + Systemex +cheapy cog = BrianClose
Shimano sora double + Prestine threadless 110.5 + on-one dble fixed + on one = Bernhard (42mm I think)
Shimano Sora (Double - Inside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN54/107mm + Novatech Hubs + Miche = Pifko
Shimano 105 (Double - inside mounted chainring) + 105 Hollowtech + Formula + Shimano BMX freewheel = ctznsmith
Shimano 105 (Double - inside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN54/110mm + Suzue Basic + Ambrosio = Specialist
Shimano 105 (Double - outside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN72/ 107mm + Shimano XT front disc hub (from Velosolo) spaced to 120mm undished + 5mm spacers behind cog + Velosolo bolt on cog = welpeur
Shimano Exage EX300 double (ring on outer side)+ Shimano un 71 113mm + Formula=ile
Shimano Nexus NX60+Campagnolo+Campagnolo Record Pista+Campagnolo Record Pista(+Silva)=east end images
SRAM S300 1.1 + GXP BB cups + 'Raleigh Build' Crap Generic Hub on Mach 1 Omega factory build junk + EAI = Ninjaslim
SRAM S300 1.1 + GXP BB cups + King Kong 219R Hub (130 mm) + Shimano freewheel = 42 mm chainline = Carson
SRAM Red (small ring on outer) + GXP + Goldtec + EAI 3/32 = 46.5mm = welpeur
SR Apex 165 (118bcd) + Shimano UN54/115mm + System Ex (Condor) + Dura-Ace = cold blow
SR Apex 170 (144bcd) (with Chainring inside spider) + YST threadless 119mm BB + On-One +Surly = A EF
SR Sakae + Shimano UN54/118mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Andel = ChrisNW {42mm}
SR Royal + Veloce 111mm + some cog + Campagnolo +EEI
Sugino XD silver TRIPLE + UN54/107mm + Dura-Ace 1/8" + Goldtec = rogerzilla (46.5mm, chainring on inside of crank)
Sugino XD black DOUBLE + UN54/107mm + Dura-Ace 1/8" + Goldtec = rogerzilla (46.5mm, chainring on OUTSIDE of crank this time)
SR Sakae Apex + Campagnolo Veloce + Miche + Dura Ace (+ macneil traveler grips) = Joao+BCN
Sugino Langster Speciales + Sugino 103mm + System Ex + Ye Olde Englishe Coge = hippymess
Sugino Maxy + 3SB (121.5mm asymmetric) cup&cone + Miche + EAI = welpeur
Sugino Super Maxy + Tange 115mm (with 1mm BB Spacer) + Zenith (same as Formula etc) + Surly = A EF
Suntour Superbe Pro + Phil 108mm JIS + Dura Ace = tick.tick.tick
Suntour Superbe Pro (Velosolo 48t chainring) + Token 102mm ISO + Suntour Superbe Pro hub (screw-on) + generic cog = 45mm chainline = leylandp38
Suntour Superbe Pro + Suntour Superbe 109mm + Suntour Superbe + Roselli = hoarsehorse
TA + TA(314) + Campag + Miche = Fruitbat
TA Alize Piste+Stronglight 110 ISO+Goldtec+Miche=Mitre_Tester
TA Cyclotourist + Stronglight + On One + Condor
Truvativ + (??) stock bianchi pista + phil wood + EAI = asm }
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP External BB cups + On-One Hubs + Miche/Dura-Ace = Pifko
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP External BB cups + Condor Uno + Miche/Dura-Ace = Pifko
Truvativ Omnium+Truvativ GXP+Navigator Pista+Miche=Mitre_Tester's sister-in-law
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP + Bontrager Aeolus 5.0+Dura Ace = Sainsburys Ed
Truvativ Omnium + Truvativ GXP + BLB/Formula + Planet X = Björn
Truvativ(SRAM) Omnium + Truvativ GXP + Quando (same as Forumula etc.) + Surly = 43mm chainline = karlson
Truative Omnium + Truative GXP + Novatech + On One = Winch25 (both GXP spacers - drive side)
White Industries + Phil + Milwaukee(Ben's) + EAI = Archi Pelago
White Industries + Phil 111mm + White Industries + White Industries = Rod Munch
White Industries + Phil 111mm+ LeVeL 135 + LeVeL = Eyebrows 47mm chainline
White Industries + Shimano/110mm + Phils + White Industries = big daddy wayne
Zeus Pista (circa 80's) + Campag Pista 109mm + Formula + Miche = tristoo -
• #458
I've been searching around but can't seem to find any answers to my question, if it's already been answered, I'm sorry!
What do you look for when you buy cranks? What makes one pair better than another apart from weight? Are they more structurally integral And hence flex less creating a more efficient transfer of power or is this negligible between different models?
Cheers
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• #459
I need a hollow bottom bracket that will fit a 22mm spindle, any recommendations?
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• #460
I really don't understand anything (even after reading a lot) about what bottom bracket would fit, help me please?
I'm currently using the Miche Primato bottom bracket (107mm/Italian/ISO). I want the Dura Ace 7600 cranks, what bb should i get? I was thinking about the Sugino 75 but this has English threading and that means that it wouldn't fit? -
• #461
The bottom bracket threading is frame dependent, and has nothing to do with the cranks. What frame do you have? The vast majority of frames these days, including those from Italian manufacturers, are English threaded.
Dura Ace 7600 cranks are NJS approved, meaning they require an ISO taper rather than a JIS one. The Sugino 75 is, I believe, also NJS approved so will be ISO taper.
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• #462
I seem to have the same problem. I have the 7600 NJS cranks, and I have been running them with an 110 mm JIS BB, namely Kinex. The chainline is not spot-on, but everything seems to run smooth.
Until today, I found out that D-A NJS is ISO taper.
So, definitely I am doing something wrong (or not) since people say stay away from matching ISO and JIS.Now, willing to do things by the book, which one is the official BB spindle length and standard (ISO or JIS) for these cranks?
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• #463
Those cranks are supposed to have a 109mm ISO taper which means running them with a JIS bb, your effectively running 113.5 ISO bb, so your chainline is 4.5mm off
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• #464
Forgot to mention, running 120 mm frame, D-A hub, cog and lockring.
Wheel spins together with crank for many, many times before stop and judging by eye, it's pretty OK (ish). However, I will invest in a 109 mm BB. -
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Hello everyone,
New to this forum. I am from the Netherlands and found there is a lot of useful information here and even more inspiration. After building several singlespeeds (Giant speeder, Gazelle Champion Mondial etc.) I'm now starting to create a fixie. Again a Champion Mondial from around 1980. The former owner destroyed it with a terrible paintjob and it was neglected (totally understandable) afterwards. The bike has a nice Campagnolo super record group on it and that creates the biggest problem for me right now. Until now I only worked on bikes fitted with shimano parts and removing the crank was never a problem. I tried to remove it with my standard crankpuller but nothing moved. I'm now wondering if I would need a special crankpuller foor campa or should I just try to use more force?
Any advice is appreciated
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Trying to figure out whether BB thread in a Ridley Oval 907c is standard or italian?
I know that older models were italian but have they since changed to BSA?Thanks for any help fellow forumengers
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• #467
hello!
I am trying to build up a vetta custom frame fixed.
The frame has quite thick tubes on the chain stay, so i need a chainline approx 46-47mm.
An older goldtec hub + EAI cog gives me a chainline of 46,3mm on my rear wheel, now i still have to find a solution for the front.
I´ve tried:
Miche Primato 107 BB + Miche Advanced crankset = 43,5mm (nearly touches chainstay, already placed around a lot)
Campy (old stock) 115 BB + Miche Advanced crankset = 48mm (too much, turning the axle around makes it worse, 50mm)
New Campy Veloce 111 BB (symmetrical) + Miche Advanced crankset = 45mm (still a bit to less/close to the chain stay, grrrr...)Putting the chainring on the other side of the crank, won´t help, because the arms of the crank (165) are as well to close to chain stay, just like the crankset maybe 1mm more space.
I´m already tired of buying things, trying and then fail ...
Does anyone know a solution, or rather a good bottom bracket + crankset combination that gives me a 46-47mm chain line?
The frame is ITA 70mm, 36x24.
I would like to keep the Miche Advanced crankset (ISO taper) but which bottom bracket would fit? So if you have tipps for JIS taper combinations, or anything else, would help me a lot!Thanks!!!
bst
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• #468
Possibly a very silly question but I'm planning to attach a TA chainring to a Campagnolo Centaur crank and I need to get some bolts for it. I've heard 5mm is the standard size but I wasn't sure whether this applied to single chainrings too?
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• #469
hey,
fitting a shimano bottom bracket into a brand new pompino frame, the threads in the bottom bracket shell are interrupted by lumps from the chainstay joint, causing the plastic cup to strip as it goes in. Tempted to get a file out but dont want to void any help from On-One.
Any advice from experienced bottom bracket fitters? Is it a case of taking the frame back or filing off the lumps and carrying on?
Thanks,
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I'm building a fixed gear road bike and have run into some trouble.
while taking the BB apart to clean it the rubber seals fell apart. does anyone know the name of these and if or where you can buy them. pics below show the bracket and the problem!!image (5).jpeg
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• #471
Also apparently i have a problem with working this forum.... how do u attach images to posts??
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Hello, need a new crankset (road ofc) with 48t and should be all black. Pricelimit is 80£ or something like that.. Which one should I get?
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• #475
That is just like a shamano 600 (circa 1990-92) bb that i serviced a few days ago. the broken seal run inside the seal that is stll in the bb shells in your lower picture. Neat idea sealing all the grit and water out. without those seals it will be no better than an non-sealed bb and will need more regular maintenance.
Hey guys
I've removed my buttom bracket from my frame.
At the spindle of the buttom bracket it's shown that's a 3P buttom bracket model.
http://sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html
My question is what buttom bracket i should get for my frame?
Regards balle