• Lance earns $10 million a year from endorsements but apparently if the plot is good enough doing this through deception is forgivable.

    Armstrong’s story is still incredible, whether EPO is a part of it or not. Given less than a 40% chance to live after his 1995 cancer diagnosis, Armstrong returned to cycling to win an unprecedented seven straight Tour de France titles. Yet, for all of the money raised and events organized by his foundation, Armstrong’s greatest gift may be one of inspiration.

    Forbes

  • heinous

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  • Intraveinous

    .

  • i wonder what impact this will have on all the former law suits / investigations etc. if usada release their evidence, which they say they will, and it at least raises a prima facie case, surely the feds will have to answer questions why they dropped their investigation. and what about that case when an insurance company liable to pay lance after he won his nth tour de france sued on the basis that he had cheated and lost (or did they settle, i can't remember)...what about all the potential lies in court documents and testimony...we're not just talking about a disgraced athlete, but perjury, fraud, not to mention corruption at the UCI if they were complicit. the potential fallout from all of this is massive. and i hope it is. i hope it shakes the world of pro cycling and brings it to its fucking knees. for the sake of young athletes in the prime of their life dying of heart attacks in their sleep, and for the sake of those like christophe bassons and betsy andreu who dared to stand up to it all and were vilified and defeated. so that the cowards in the pro scene who only want to protect themselves at any cost can't continue with the hypocrisy.

  • Federal investigation was into drug trafficking and illegal use of public funds, not whether Lance was doping (doping is not a criminal offence in itself, though defrauding companies by doing so might be). It could be argued that Lance commited perjury during previous trials when he actually used the USADA to 'prove' that he wasn't doping to get his bonus for winning the TdF 5 times.

  • Why would the USADA go after one of their own? Some patriots....

  • I think they're best off just declaring 1999 - 2005 Tours null and void.

    1999

    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Alex Zülle (‘98 busted for EPO)
    3. Fernando Escartín (Systematic team doping exposed in ‘04)
    4. Laurent Dufaux (‘98 busted for EPO)
    5. Ángel Casero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2000

    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    4. Christophe Moraue (‘98 busted for EPO)
    5. Roberto Heras (‘05 busted for EPO)

    2001

    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    4. Andrei Kivilev
    5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2002

    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Raimondas Rumšas (Suspended in ‘03 for doping)
    4. Santiago Botero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2003

    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
    4. Tyler Hamilton (Suspended ‘04 for blood doping)
    5. Haimar Zubeldia

    2004

    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Andreas Kloden (Named in doping case in ‘08)
    3. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
    4. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    5. Jose Azevedo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2005

    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
    3. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    4. Fransico Mancebo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    5. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)

    Have you noticed how, in this list, Armstrong's the only clean one?

    And he came out on top every time. :)

  • I dunno, fussball told me, ask him...

    Don't follow Ludwig.

  • Why would the USADA go after one of their own? Some patriots....

    Tygart must be a Democrat. i want to see his birth certificate. I mean, what kind of name is Tygart? Sounds French to me.

  • Doesn't seem like anything new.

    Forget drips, the flood is coming during/after the Bruyneel hearings.

  • Why would the USADA go after one of their own? Some patriots....

    not anymore..

  • Stripped of his titles AND a death in the family. Sad times.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19381098

  • Lance Armstong's Statement of August 23, 2012

    AUSTIN, Texas - August 23rd, 2012 - There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA’s charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA’s motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.

    If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?

    From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.

    The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It’s an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It’s just not right.

    USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.

    Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.

    Has no one offered him the advice that if he's in a hole, he really should stop digging?

  • Everyone loves a hero and everyone loves to hste a villain

  • Does anyone know what he will do next? when? where? to whom? and why?
    Space Exploration, there is a space suit with his name on that just came free, however the previous owner was a stronger armstrong in most respects.

  • Does anyone know what he will do next?

    Politics

    when?

    2014

    where?

    Texas

    to whom?

    The whole country, eventually

    and why?

    Because he already has the psychopathy, so he's fully qualified

  • Doesn't seem like anything new.

    Forget drips, the flood is coming during/after the Bruyneel hearings.

    The having lunch with Sarko, getting rid of Pierre Bordry head of the AFLD, then giving Sarko a nice team bike and a photo shoot with him at the Etape was pretty fucking novel to me. I mean, everyone knows to an extent how politics works, and that Sarko is as gaping an ass hole as even Armstrong has proved himself to be, but in tandem they clearly made a good team.

    Perhaps Lance will have a stellar career as French president instead...

  • Did Armstrong dope? Probably. Will we ever know? Nope. Do I care? Slightly. Am I loving this thread now for the pantomine of it all? Oh yes. Carry on.

  • Did Armstrong dope? Probably. Will we ever know? Nope. Do I care? Slightly. Am I loving this thread now for the pantomine of it all? Oh yes. Carry on.

    Are you sure about that?

  • Pretty certain.

  • Did Armstrong dope? Probably. Will we ever know? Nope. Do I care? Slightly. Am I loving this thread now for the pantomine of it all? Oh yes. Carry on.

    Pantomine? You must live in a fucking shoe, even Lance isn't denying he doped.

  • @ BGA. We already know; unless you, unlike Armstrong himself, can explain how EPO got in to his blood during the 1999 Tour.

  • I would have bags more respect for him if he would hold his hands up.

    Sadly, I feel this wont happen.

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