Road bike recommendations

Groupset ready to go on, so I'm more interested in views on the frame - do they ride as good as the reviews say they do? In other words - even at 3 years old - I won't be missing out on anything? Ta

Not that you would notice. These frames are incredibly similar, they just make small tweaks every year and spend lots of money marketing them. There certainly hasn't been a massive technology shift in the last 3 years in frame design. Unless you are a Pro-peloton writer ghost posting on lfgss then you will not notice any difference at all.

The reason you would would want to buy a new frame would be the warranty - if you don't mind and can get a good price on a 2nd hand frame - do it.